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post #1 of 22 Old 09-15-2009, 07:36 PM Thread Starter
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critique shoeing please

charli had horrible hooves from the farrier we used to use, and there really unhealthy. so not much to work with, he also has underrun heels, hence the metal bit welded on the back =]

and he normally does not stand stand like that out the back, he had his ass backed into a corner while he was eating for some bizzare reason =P

ive kept them big so you can look well
fronts
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near fore
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off fore
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near hind
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off hind
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post #2 of 22 Old 09-15-2009, 10:34 PM
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near front and off hind are both on crooked. Hard to tell the fit in the heals because of the straw but from what I can see the heals are fit too tight.
Maybe this is a old job and ready for a reset??
Toe clips are not well set into wall.
Overall a very ameteur effort or an old job.
As for welding weights on one heal of each hind?? Never saw that one before??
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near front and off hind are both on crooked. Hard to tell the fit in the heals because of the straw but from what I can see the heals are fit too tight.
Maybe this is a old job and ready for a reset??
Toe clips are not well set into wall.
Overall a very ameteur effort or an old job.
As for welding weights on one heal of each hind?? Never saw that one before??
shoes arennt on crooked lolo, his feet are crooked
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post #4 of 22 Old 09-16-2009, 04:27 AM
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shoes arennt on crooked lolo, his feet are crooked
His feet may well be, but the shoes that RiosDad commented on definitely are too. It's impossible to get a good idea of balance with these pics. Also need shots side- & front-on from near ground level and sighting down sole from heel, for heel height, balance & sole concavity.

I also disagree with the bits welded on the heels & don't understand what the point of them is. The heels need to be relieved and forward pressure on them from stretched toes & quarters addressed, in order to bring the heels back to where they should be. There is a lot of flaring, at the quarters on the backs & all the way round on fronts, that hasn't been addressed. I doubt the degree this can be helped with shoes, as they need to be attached to the walls, so therefore the walls cannot find relief, to begin growing in strong, while the shoes are on.

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he has really bad flares, they take some off every time but cant take heaps off
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post #6 of 22 Old 09-17-2009, 10:05 PM
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he has really bad flares, they take some off every time but cant take heaps off
Well, they definitely can, but there would be nothing to attach the shoes to. Continuing with shoes means that the flaring/disconnected walls cannot be relieved, so cannot begin to grow down strongly. IME I don't believe you can fix this with shoes. That means that it's also an uphill battle to address 'underrun' heels. I would definitely ditch the shoes, at least until the feet have been rehabilitated, or else problems will continue to worsen - or at best, not improve.
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my farriers a vet, it is fixing, anad I cannot go without shoes, he has very thin soles and gets abcesses and I cant compete etc
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Find a different ferrier.

I never seen this type of shoeing before. They are deff crooked doesnt matter if his feet are or not..
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My horse doesnt even wear shoes and I can tell those are all wrong...

Ive worked with alot of horses who did have shoes and they never looked like that...his rear shoes are most deffinently crooked and the front shoes look to small for his feet or something...im not sure...his feet also seemed to be shaped oddly and the toe clips are on bad...

I dont care if your farrier is a vet...he has done a terrible job and you need to ditch him...I heard a saying once : Some farriers only know how to nail on shoes. I think that may go for your situation....

If you want a sound health horse I would recomend leaving him barefoot for three months atleast...get a good barefoot trimmer to come out often and shape his hooves well and i would also apply some sort of non-petroleum based hoof moisturizer three times a week to help toughen his soles since you said they were thin. I would recomend Mane an Tail Hoofmaker or Hoof Flex All natural (not regular hoof felx)

Even if it means not competeing for a while im possitive this would benefit your horse... good luck with his feet! Sorry to leave such a long and slightly mean reply...


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post #10 of 22 Old 09-22-2009, 11:24 PM
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i agree totally with the posts above, sorry but imho he needs those shoesies gone asap, i know some people think that is the only way to help fix problem feet, but actually they just cause more problem....Barefoot for Soundness, maybe this cna help a bit... it explains about flares and stuff...

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