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post #11 of 22 Old 09-22-2009, 11:01 PM
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my farriers a vet, it is fixing, anad I cannot go without shoes, he has very thin soles and gets abcesses and I can't compete etc
Fixing? No, I think not. Making worse? Possibly. Your farrier is a vet? Interesting. What's with all the gouges (s)he has dug out of the walls. Crooked shoes as already pointed out. The add-on "wedge" throws the balance out. Clips always tell me that the farrier is getting desperate: there is no place strong enough left for the nails. All in all -- not good.

I agree with others -- loose the shoes, ditch the farrier. Let the hooves regrow for 6 mos (minimum) to a year sans shoes. Use boots if need be for competition and whatever other riding you are doing. You need a farrier that can do a good barefoot trim for this regrowth period. Possibly a different one. In a year, revisit it and decide if you need shoes again then.
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post #12 of 22 Old 09-23-2009, 04:00 AM
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my farriers a vet, it is fixing, anad I cannot go without shoes, he has very thin soles and gets abcesses and I can't compete etc
Hmm, a farrier/vet?? Perhaps that's why they have probs?? As far as 'cannot go without shoes', I agree that if your horse has thin soles, he should not go without protection, to avoid abscesses. But far from protecting his feet, a rim of steel can't really do this & the peripheral loading will cause 'dropped', thin soles, even if the horse has pads. As others have suggested, boots are a healthy alternative, at least until his hooves are in good shape.
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my farriers a vet, it is fixing, anad I cannot go without shoes, he has very thin soles and gets abcesses and I can't compete etc

Ok first off I agree with what everyone has stated the shoes are not helping. Go barefoot and until you can do that get boots.

Second if you truly had your horse's health in mind then you would lay him/her up till their hooves where better not just worry about your ribbons that you need to win. Sorry if that sounds harsh

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Not Every Horse Can Go Barefoot Though. My Horse Threw A Shoe And Had To Be Stables Because He Gets Abcesses And Stone Bruising Really Easy And He Has Special Shoes On To Try Sort His Hooves Out.

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post #15 of 22 Old 09-23-2009, 06:27 PM Thread Starter
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um you do not know my horse or my farriers, the parts dug out are sand cracks. He does a great job and fyi they were worse, please don't judge the Situation before you have all the information.

Please stop trying to push your barefoot crap on me please, I don't do barefoot in charlis case because he doesnt cope. I have tried believe me.
They are a work in progress, the welded bits are NOT wedges. They are flat portions there to corect him standing under himself in the back.

I know your trying to help, but don't try convert me with your natural crap.
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Well, then charlie -- don't ask.
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Its kind a funny to have someone use the words Natural and Crap in the same derogatory phrase... considering that nature has been doing it right for oooh, I don't know, millions of years! I agree, if you don't like what people say don't ask for an opinion. What good are you doing yourself and your horse by closing your mind to what other horsepeople say?
Obviously a lot of people have tried the "natural crap" and it has helped...but it is your choice of course... though I must ask, If you know your horse and farrier soo well, why were you asking for a critique?
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I've tried barefoot. Gave my horse a sore back O.o

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I've tried barefoot. Gave my horse a sore back O.o
That's an interesting conclusion to come to. If indeed being bare had anything to do with it, I suspect it was because you had him go bare & unprotected on surfaces his feet weren't ready for, so he used his sensitive feet wrongly & put his back out, along with other potential problems moving wrongly can cause.

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Not Every Horse Can Go Barefoot Though. My Horse Threw A Shoe And Had To Be Stables Because He Gets Abcesses And Stone Bruising Really Easy
I agree that not every horse can do what people want them to without protection. It depends on many factors and most horses coming out of shoes will need boots or such to begin with at least. Unfortunately metal shoes provide little protection or support. IME stone bruises that lead to abscesses - ie thin, dropped soles - are a huge problem with shoes. They may or may not actually cause the problem, but they certainly exacerbate it.

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I know your trying to help, but don't try convert me with your natural crap.
Again Charlie, don't ask for opinions if you don't want to hear them. Not trying to 'convert' anyone, just offering advice based on my (not insubstantial) experience of rehabbing problem feet. I feel sorry for your horse tho if you won't even consider what we're telling you. Sure, there are pros & cons to all 'methods' but you seem to be throwing the baby out with the bathwater. You say you've 'tried' barefoot. If you feel like telling us what you 'tried' & for how long etc, we may be able to tell you where it likely went wrong.
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Its kind a funny to have someone use the words Natural and Crap in the same derogatory phrase... considering that nature has been doing it right for oooh, I don't know, millions of years! I agree, if you don't like what people say don't ask for an opinion. What good are you doing yourself and your horse by closing your mind to what other horsepeople say?
Obviously a lot of people have tried the "natural crap" and it has helped...but it is your choice of course... though I must ask, If you know your horse and farrier soo well, why were you asking for a critique?
And of course FYI this is just MY opinion.

HAHAH ohk hun, well people have bred out the nature side of hoof care in tbs in my eyes, his feet are not from a natural selected way of things so they are not what nature intended, i\they are what people wanted.
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