Originally Posted by spirit88
Ok I felt his neck its like well set jello. His hair coat in person is pretty shaggy looking the one picture doesnt show that. That's why I took a close up shows better what it looks like when I look at him in person.To me he looks fat in the one pic but that's a lot of hair we rode yesterday and when his hair flattens down he looks much trimer. So how much for these blood test to find out whats up with him. I know just need a ball park figure iam in minnesota. Even my twenty five year old isnt that shaggy coated she has less hair then him.
Just to be sure on the neck, feel the same spot on your 25 yr old for comparison.
My vet only charged $77 to draw one vile each on two horses, plus the road fee but, he seems to be cheaper than most.
I am going to guess blood tests to be around $100 - $150. That should include drawing blood to check insulin and another vile to check ACTH (cortisol), road fee, and for the vet to send the two viles off to a Lab.
Results should not take more than ten days (generally five), unless the Lab is really back logged for some disease outbreak.
If the vet wants to do a CBC (complete blood count), that's an even bigger owie to the checkbook
These days, the prerequisites for my vet drawing blood for insulin testing means:
1. Horse needs put up for the night.
2. No feed after 10:00 PM.
2.1 Horse can have grass hay and water.
3. NO HAY in the morning and vet is at my barn by 9:30 to draw blood.
Once that is done, then the horse can eat and be turned out.
Something else that came to mind and, I don't know if it shows itself in this manner, is the possibility of a mineral deficiency.
That can be chased down by soil samples, hay samples, hair samples from the horse.
I have been reading a lot about the affects of high arsenic levels in soil and well water. There's a gal in Oregon with a cushings pony that its arsenic level tested toxic. The other horse did NOT test for toxic levels, so now she is really stymied.
Arsenic is naturally occurring but it can reach toxic levels just like selenium can.
Also, if I remember correctly, isn't MN an area that tests high for selenium?
Sometimes when these minerals are "toxic high" in the soil (which carries to hay and grass) they cancel out other beneficial minerals, for lack of a smarter way of saying that
Lots to think about and maybe the bottom line, before spending money on blood tests, would be to consult a degreed equine nutritionist in your area. They generally hang out at universities and, I happen to know the University of Minnesota has a big equine program.
I know that because my two metabolic horses were enrolled in their insulin study program in 2010.
They have and are doing a lot of research into metabolic issues. I have done all this yattering and only just now thought about the Univ of MN - dumb dumb dumb.
This is the link that I used to initially get my horses into the program. There's a "contact us" link at the bottom. I really think this might be the place to start. If they can't help you, they should be able to point you in the right direction Survey - CVM - Equine Genetics and Genomics Laboratory, University of Minnesota
That all being said, please update with whatever you find out