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    04-28-2012, 11:20 PM
  #21
Cat
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Wonder how well alfalfa pellets would break up in a blender and then maybe use a bit of apple juice to make it more liquidy?
     
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    04-28-2012, 11:23 PM
  #22
Foal
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Originally Posted by Cat    
Wonder how well alfalfa pellets would break up in a blender and then maybe use a bit of apple juice to make it more liquidy?
u think I could try that with his grain and maybe use Pedia Lyte?
     
    04-28-2012, 11:23 PM
  #23
Cat
Green Broke
I'd find out what test was used to determine EPM. There are some more accurate tests now compared to when my boy was tested. If he used the old Western Blot I would ask for one of the newer ones.
     
    04-28-2012, 11:25 PM
  #24
Cat
Green Broke
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Originally Posted by Skyebird03    
u think I could try that with his grain and maybe use Pedia Lyte?

It would be worth a shot.
     
    04-28-2012, 11:25 PM
  #25
Trained
Warm Bran Mash or Soaked Beet Pulp with applesauce mixed in? Or with crushed up peppermints?

A probiotic is also recommended. Prozyme is a good supplement that has digestive enzymes and probiotics in it to help restore the good bacteria in the gut that's been cleared out by all the rounds of antibiotics.

I don't know if yogurt is okay for horses? But that might be something that you could mix in with some food too.

"The EPM horse has special needs for nutrition. They should have very little alfalfa, and their diet should be rich in bermuda, orchard grass mix, and timothy hay. They also need help to boost their immune system, and we have recommended additional Colostrum or Beta Blend with Colostrum and Beta Glucan to help those horses, along with generous doses of EPM−Zyme which has anthelmetic herbs and herbs rich in naturally occurring iron. Our other clients have also treated their EPM horses by adding Vitamin E (from 1,000 to 8,000 IU per day) and vitamin C (1,000 − 5,000 mg per day). While others have added Folic Acid to their diets to help counteract the anemia caused by drugs."
http://www.earthsongranch.com/catalog/epm.pdf

Also, what kind of grain are you feeding?
     
    04-28-2012, 11:27 PM
  #26
Trained
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Originally Posted by Cat    
Wonder how well alfalfa pellets would break up in a blender and then maybe use a bit of apple juice to make it more liquidy?
I'm not sure if alfalfa pellets would be best. In many articles is says to limit their alfalfa intake and replace it with bermunda, orchard or timothy hay. So maybe timothy pellets instead of alfalfa?
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    04-28-2012, 11:30 PM
  #27
Foal
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Originally Posted by CLaPorte432    
I'm not sure if alfalfa pellets out be best. If many articles is says to limit their alfalfa intake and replace it with bermunda, orchard or timothy hay. So maybe timothy pellets instead of alfalfa?

I've honestly never seen timothy pellets at any of the farm stores in town...


HOWEVER....I am getting out the blender. I'll use his grain until I can get to the store in the morning to see what I can pick up. Atleast he'll have something in him
     
    04-28-2012, 11:33 PM
  #28
Trained
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Originally Posted by Skyebird03    
i've honestly never seen timothy pellets at any of the farm stores in town...


HOWEVER....I am getting out the blender. I'll use his grain until I can get to the store in the morning to see what I can pick up. Atleast he'll have something in him
Do you have a Tractor Supply Company? The one where I live carries Timothy Pellets.
Standlee Hay Certified Premium Timothy Grass Hay Pellets, 40 lb. - 5121819 | Tractor Supply Company

Maybe Rice Bran? I forgot about that...
     
    04-28-2012, 11:37 PM
  #29
Foal
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Originally Posted by CLaPorte432    
Do you have a Tractor Supply Company? The one where I live carries Timothy Pellets.
Standlee Hay Certified Premium Timothy Grass Hay Pellets, 40 lb. - 5121819 | Tractor Supply Company

Maybe Rice Bran? I forgot about that...

We don't have a TSC..the closest one is about an hour and half away. I know theres a store in town that sells Rice Bran though.
     
    04-28-2012, 11:38 PM
  #30
Weanling
There are a few articles about colloidal silver and EPM online but I picked one out for you if you'd like to take a look into it, it's the last article on the page:

Response to "Re: End of the Line -- Need Advice"

I used CS for a senior mare who had EPM, there was some irreversible damage but otherwise within 2 months she was good to go - she was dosed for 10 days the first month, and another 10 days the second month. It can be injected intravenously too.

Other helps for EPM are dandelion extract and garlic powder, along with microbials and/or probiotics as CLAPorte432 mentioned. And if he won't eat, you can try adding molasses to the mash :)

I personally wouldn't touch that ponazuril. Not with those side effects, uh uh.
     

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