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        08-28-2013, 02:29 PM
      #11
    Weanling
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    By the way, here is a pic of the needy guy taken last night :)

    Also, I did find MSM at the Co-op
         
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        08-28-2013, 02:51 PM
      #12
    Foal
    Thank you for your condolences. I am sure everything will work out for your new boy. I just wish people would be honest when selling a horse. More horses would find perfect homes that way.

    Any questions please ask. Sometimes it helps to have someone to talk to has experienced a similar situation.
         
        08-28-2013, 03:45 PM
      #13
    Weanling
    Thank you! I will. I don't have too many questions yet as I JUST finally got him home yesterday, but if anything comes up I will. I guess the only thing I'm wondering about right now is DOES this cause scarring of the lungs? My vet said no, but I read some articles that says it does.
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        08-28-2013, 03:54 PM
      #14
    Foal
    I think it depends on who you are talking to and what their experiences are. My understanding has been that each episode can cause more damage but as I said there are many different opinions and that may be that each case is different.
         
        08-29-2013, 02:41 PM
      #15
    Foal
    I took care of a horse with bad heaves for a year before. NEVER stall the horse, as Heaves is thought to be an allergic reaction to dust and mold. During the summer when it's dry, you will want to give him the paste or pellets made specifically for heaves. (can't remember the name, sorry) Heavy exercise is bad, especially if the horse has had heaves for a long time with no treatment. Just get as much info as you can from the vet and previous owners! Good luck!
         
        08-29-2013, 04:48 PM
      #16
    Trained
    Smart packs have some good supplements for heaves. Can't remember what I bought but check them out if you can purchase from there.

    I second no round bales, keep it scattered in a bucket or on HARD ground to keep their heads down for drainage etc. Soaked if the supplements don't work. If I were you I'd feed soaked pellets and very limited hay, only enough to keep his guts going

    By looking at him I'd say he's had them longer than they are telling you and it's pretty severe if he's had adequate nutrition. He is pretty ribby and that's a tell tell sign of a bad case.
    Are you sure you want to keep him? Since they didn't disclose, and not sure if you agreed on an as is, you probably have a leg to stand on legally.

    It is a good thing you are so far up north. Nice long winters which really helps them out. Just try and keep him out of the barn as much as possible.
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        08-29-2013, 05:16 PM
      #17
    Banned
    The supplement for heaves through smart pak is smart breath iv heard it works really well.

    After owning a heavey horse for over 20 years not sure id ever own one again. Their care is alot more involved then I care for soaking hay in winter is a real PITA. When he's having a bad day heave wise I would not ride or exercise him.

    Really if I were you id give taking on this horse serious thought. If you board I hope barn owner is willing to do what needs to be done to keep this horse healthy. My horse is at home so iam her sole care giver,sorry I wouldnt trust anyone else to do what needs done.

    Winters are better on them then summer my horse never has issue in winter time.

    From the pic he does look like he's had this issue for a while....very nice looking horse though.
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        08-29-2013, 06:08 PM
      #18
    Foal
    I agree Spirit 88. Having been there myself and taking care of my horse at home it is a ton of work and worry and on bad days you just want to cry for them. I did all the same things, soaked hay all year for inside and outside and in the Winter I would just do little bits steadily all day long so it wouldn't freeze.

    If you are boarding him out you may want to talk to the barn owner and make sure that they are willing to do the extra work, even if you either offer to pay a bit more or do some extra work for them around the barn to compensate.

    This is a chronic disease, it is manageable but it will not go away.

    He is a very sweet looking boy and believe me they know when you are helping them.
         
        09-30-2013, 07:32 PM
      #19
    Weanling
    I just wanted to update briefly:

    I've now had Chilkoot home for a while. He has been 100% on pasture and hasn't had any hint of breathing issues since I brought him home, even after running laps around our field with the other horses. However, winter is coming and he'll be on hay soon. I brought him up to the yard a couple days ago to start him on a higher fat diet because he hasn't gained much weight. If there is no improvement within a month on the addition of oats/high fat grain supplement/alfalfa cubes/oil plus unlimited brome/timothy hay then I'll have to consult a vet I guess. I thought about having his teeth looked at but he is only 6 and doesn't APPEAR to have any problems chewing. I've never had teeth issues with a horse though so maybe I'm oblivious??

    He seems to be doing ok on hay just spread out on the ground, hopefully it continues that way.

    He is THE sweetest and most willing dude ever, nothing phases him which is pretty awesome :) Still pending registration (will be calling AQHA tomorrow) but he really is a very sweet, quiet dude.

    I did also get some MSM to add to his feed as well.
         

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