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    02-13-2011, 09:00 PM
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Depression/sluggishness, weight loss, muscle loss

I have a horse that is 10 years old, and over the past couple of months, he has just seemed to be going downhill. He has seemed depressed, he has lost some weight (enough to be quite noticeable), and alot of muscle loss, (backbone sticking up, topline sinking...) He isn't "my" horse, a family friend has let me take him and work with him to see if he would do barrels, hence the reason we haven't put alot of money into him for vet visits. Starting a couple months ago, he seemed to get worse and worse when I would ride him. He has always always been pretty good about picking up his corrects leads, awesome at doing flying lead changes, etc. He would no longer pick up the right lead, and flying lead changes were a thing of the past... and he would just seem to look a little more poor each day.... we would actually joke and say that he looked 30 instead of 10... He gets fed on a regualr basis, and has a wondeful appetite. The pasture that he is in is full of some mean horses that do nothing but bully him, and treat him as an outcast. He has been at our barn for over a year, and he has never been accepted by them. We originally thought that might be where some of his depression was coming from.... but now that he has seemed to deteriorate so quickly, I don't think that's it anymore. I havent been riding him lately just because he wasnt riding well at all, and he just seemed to be depressed. I've been very worried and uneasy about his health, and would just really like to know if anyone has any idea what this could be? Thanks so much!
     
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    02-13-2011, 09:19 PM
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This post make me MAD.There is something wrong with this horse. If he is really 10 and going downhill so fast, it is medical and something is desperately wrong.
If you are keeping this horse to ride and possibly barrel race, and have had him a year and watched him go downhill during that time,but especially in the last two months, you need to at least be decent enough to spend the money and take this horse to the vet. Has the owner seen him since this drastic change in his physical appearance?WHY hasn't a vet seen him? Just because he is not your horse, YOU are riding him, or were riding him until he can't be ridden anymore, you have been seeing him everyday. I imagine you have not had his teeth floated in the year you have had him? WHY, if you are concerned enough that the weight loss and reluctance to change leads, etc to write to a forum, WHY haven't you been concerned enough to have him see a vet? Has the owner suggested a vet? Doesn't anyone care enough about this horse to spend the money for a vet?
     
    02-13-2011, 09:32 PM
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I have to agree with Wyoming, that its pretty crappy that you've had this horse a year, and even though he may not be "yours", he's still under your care, and you should have seen to his needs at the latest when he really started to go downhill. You need to have a vet out, I'm thinking he could have ulcers, his teeth may need to be done, he may have worms, which would all cause him to lose weight, look depressed, not want to work under saddle. He could also have pulled a muscle, or ligament, or twisted something when out with the other horses. Have you watched him at feeding time, is he actually getting food. Maybe for the first 10 minutes he'll have his own pile, but can you guarantee that for the ENTIRE time food is out there, that he has access to it, and that the other horses aren't continually running him off his food. If he is still being treated as an "outcast", and the other horses are still picking on him excessively, you need to move him. You would be pretty depressed too if you had to spend the last year stuck with horses that didn't like you, that probably ran you off your food. I would also have him tested for whatever other diseases are common in your area, if it isn't ulcers, teeth, worms, or muscle, or skeletal issues. Bottom line though is that you need to have a vet out to figure out exactly what it is, before he ends up getting so sick that he dies.
     
    02-13-2011, 09:35 PM
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To wyoming grandma, there was absolutely no need fot you to be sooo ugly. You have no idea what my situation is. I am not able to spend hundreds of dollars on a horse that isnt mine, and my parents won't let me. If you would have actually read the post, he hasn't been going downhill since I got him a year ago, it's been in the last TWO MONTHS. And his onwer has seen him and thinks he looks great, because he looks better than he did when we got him from the guy. He came from horrible living conditions. He is not in such bad shape that anyone else would notice. Everyone out here at our barn still comments about how good he looks. I am just overly inspective of my horses. His weight loss is not bad... just enough to be a little noticeble, but you still can't see his ribs. It is mainly his sluggishness acting, and how he seems to have lost muscle mass. It is very disturbing how rude and ugly you were, and if that is how you are going to continue to post, them don't bother being apart of this please. I'm not here to have people treat me like crap. I am just a girl who wants the best for my or NOT my horse, and unfortuneatly, I don't have the funding to spend thousands of dollars. Because TRUST ME, if I did, my horses would see the vet for EVERYTHING!
     
    02-13-2011, 09:37 PM
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Green Broke
A vet may also be alot cheaper than what it is now going to take to get the horse back where he should be.
It could even be something as easily treatable as worms, but why spend the money?
     
    02-13-2011, 09:38 PM
  #6
Foal
Dressagebell, he has been wormed, and yes we have spent alot of time watching him at feeding, and we take the time to put him a pile of hay halfway across the pasture away from everybody, and that is where he eats and stays.
     
    02-13-2011, 09:39 PM
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Green Broke
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Originally Posted by barrelracerchick    
To wyoming grandma, there was absolutely no need fot you to be sooo ugly. You have no idea what my situation is. I am not able to spend hundreds of dollars on a horse that isnt mine, and my parents won't let me. If you would have actually read the post, he hasn't been going downhill since I got him a year ago, it's been in the last TWO MONTHS. And his onwer has seen him and thinks he looks great, because he looks better than he did when we got him from the guy. He came from horrible living conditions. He is not in such bad shape that anyone else would notice. Everyone out here at our barn still comments about how good he looks. I am just overly inspective of my horses. His weight loss is not bad... just enough to be a little noticeble, but you still can't see his ribs. It is mainly his sluggishness acting, and how he seems to have lost muscle mass. It is very disturbing how rude and ugly you were, and if that is how you are going to continue to post, them don't bother being apart of this please. I'm not here to have people treat me like crap. I am just a girl who wants the best for my or NOT my horse, and unfortuneatly, I don't have the funding to spend thousands of dollars. Because TRUST ME, if I did, my horses would see the vet for EVERYTHING!
No we do not know what your situation is, we just know what you tell us. Read your post from someone else's perspective and maybe you will see what we are reading
     
    02-13-2011, 09:48 PM
  #8
Foal
Well, now you more know what my situation is. I have begged for this horse to have medical attention, TRUST ME. I went back and read my original post, and I made him sound a lot worse than he is. Like I said, I have asked people out at our barn, and they all say he still looks fine, and they don't really notice that he looks any different. I am very obsevant of my horses, so I notice it more. I wasnt saying that he isnt getting medical attention because he isnt mine. I'm not ALLOWED to spend that kind of money on him, with him not being mine. If I myself had the money to take him to the vet, PLEASE TRUST ME PEOPLE, I would in an instant. I am not some cruel person who doesnt give my animals proper medical care. Our horses are very well taken care of. I sooooo wish I could just up and take him to the vet and tell them to do whatever they have to to make him better. PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE trust me on this. Like I said I have begged for this horse to be seen my a vet.
     
    02-13-2011, 09:50 PM
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"He has seemed depressed, he has lost some weight (enough to be quite noticeable), and alot of muscle loss, (backbone sticking up, topline sinking...) He isn't "my" horse, a family friend has let me take him and work with him to see if he would do barrels, hence the reason we haven't put alot of money into him for vet visits"
Hmm, this is what you wrote, so I commented on what I read.Now you say
He is not in such bad shape that anyone else would notice. Everyone out here at our barn still comments about how good he looks. I am just overly inspective of my horses. His weight loss is not bad... just enough to be a little noticeble, but you still can't see his ribs

Which is it? The first explanation or the second? And it doesn't cost thousands of dollars to have a vet come out, float teeth, do a general check up, maybe give some vitamin shots, etc. I am sorry if you think I am rude, but when someone write that the horse they are riding or using for free so they really don't own it, Starting a couple months ago, he seemed to get worse and worse when I would ride him. He has always always been pretty good about picking up his corrects leads, awesome at doing flying lead changes, etc. He would no longer pick up the right lead, and flying lead changes were a thing of the past... and he would just seem to look a little more poor each day.... we would actually joke and say that he looked 30 instead of 10...
then that person, being you and your parents have a responsibility to take care of the horse. Sounds as if the owner doesn't care enough to spend vet money either.,sad situation for the horse, he gives his best, starts going downhill and nobody, the owner or the girl using him for free is willing to take him to a vet.

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    02-13-2011, 09:52 PM
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Foal
I was really hoping that this forum would be filled with nice, genuine people, who wouldnt judge and be so hatefully rude.... but I can see I was very very wrong. I am just a girl who wants the very absolute best for my horses, and I was just asking a question, hoping to get nice, polite, helpful replies.
     

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