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    02-13-2011, 09:53 PM
Good lord, you people are freakin hateful. No wonder people told me to stear clear of this site. I should have listened.
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    02-13-2011, 09:58 PM
Why are we hateful? Because you are not hearing what you want to hear?
If you own a horse or ride a horse for free or use some elses horse and can't afford, or your parents won't pay for vet care, then maybe somebody should give the horse to a rescue so someone will care for him.
You started the thread and as soon as you didn't hear what you wanted to hear, you started changing your story to sound not so bad. How do you expect someone to help or give advice, when you don't want to hear the truth? You are not being responsible for the horse. Period.... Whether yours or one you are riding, you are the one who posted how bad he was and how upset your were since he could not see a vet because nobody would pay for it.
Now we are all saying the horse needs to see a vet and now we are mean rude people. Maybe you should show more respect to the adults you are asking for help from and not treat us so rude and have a tantrum.
    02-13-2011, 10:01 PM
You told the story and asked for help. Everyone here said "get the horse to a vet" every single reply. So, why is that rude?
    02-13-2011, 10:04 PM
It wasn't at all rude that y'all said he needed to see a vet. I know he needs to see a vet, but just like you told me to go back and read what I wrote, go back and read what you wrote and how absolutely, and unnecessarily rude and hateful you were about it.
    02-13-2011, 10:08 PM
Again, no rude, just truthful.
    02-13-2011, 10:46 PM
Yes it is truthful he needs to be seen by a vet. Crazy how nasty you were. I'm sorry if I came across disrespecful, but it upset me how ugly some of y'all were. I posted on here hoping to get some leads on anything it might be, that way I knew what direction to go in, and wanted to see if anyone else had experienced anything like this. I was a bit contradicting. He isn't in horrible condition by any means, I promise. I went a little overboard on my original thread. I thought maybe if I made it sound a little worse, I might get a little more help. I was very wrong. He has never been a very "good" looking horse body wise. I was a bit shocked when we went to go pick him up from the guy. We fattened him up and he was being worked a lot, so he was in good shape, and muscled up well. If any of y'all have horses, and they stay out during the winter, you all know horses will look worse in the winter than they do in the summer... some horses are worse than others. Right now he honestly just looks like a very out of shape, old horse. And he isn't. So that is why I was a little concerned. He is looking a little sway backed, but this horse is crazily high withered... so much to where I wonder if it hurts him to be ridden. I used a csi saddle pad on him, and he seemed pretty comfortable with it. I have said many of times that I feel quite sure the reason he is acting depressed is because of the horses in his pasture... I could only imagine how I would feel if I was in a situation like that. We are working to figure out something better for him as far as a different pasture... we just haven't been able to move him bc all of our other pastures and paddocks are slap full of boarded horses, and horses in for training. Again, I am sorry all this caused such a fuss... and hopefully it can be put behind us... I'm sorry if my original post was misleading, and maybe didn't contain all the needed info it should have... like that I've asked that he be taken to the vet, because I DO realize something is going on and it would be helpful if he just had a check-up. It's out of my control if he won't be taken to the vet. Sooo please don't say that the girl who rides him doesn't care enough to get him medical attention, because that is so far from the truth.
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    02-14-2011, 08:19 AM
I would discuss this with the horses owner, and encourage her to have a vet come out and assess the poor horse to make sure there isn't something internal going on.

Etc, etc

This is the most important factor in this equation - a Veterinarian. Get the owner involved.

I would also pump more roughage in him. Put him in a paddock, put him in a smaller pasture with a buddy he gets along with, and let him eat a round bale - round bales do wonders. The more roughage, the better! UP, UP, UP his hay intake, dramatically.

I would also have the owner put the horse on a digestive aid:

SmartDigest Ultra - Horse Digestive Supplements from SmartPak Equine

Fat-Cat - Horse Weight Gain Supplements from SmartPak Equine
    02-14-2011, 08:34 AM
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Truthfully, we aren't going to be able to tell you anything you want to hear, because over the internet, not one of us can see what is going on. And even then, without an exam, it's still not something we'd be able to diagnose. It could be any of the things posted above, it could be that he has a pinched nerve in his back or shoulder, something could be out of alignment, it could be a thousand things. I definitely would get him out of the pasture full of horses that don't like him. Their running him and keeping him an outcast is certainly not good for his health.

But typically speaking, a horse that has a sudden behavior change, loss of muscle, and sudden lack of energy, or refusal to do things he has always done in the past is in some kind of PAIN, which needs treatment. If you can't get a vet to look at him, is there at least maybe a knowledgeable horse person at your barn that could actually put their hands on him and see if he has any pain points? It might give you a place to start.

I would also have a talk with your parents at this point, and explain that the horse acts like he is in pain, and that he needs at the very least, a quick once-over. I assume that the horse is up to date on shots and things, when will the vet make another scheduled visit to your barn? If he is going to be due for the basics soon, it wouldn't be a big thing to look at him a little more in depth then.
    02-14-2011, 08:41 AM
It could be any of the things posted above, it could be that he has a pinched nerve in his back or shoulder, something could be out of alignment, it could be a thousand things.

I definitely would get him out of the pasture full of horses that don't like him. Their running him and keeping him an outcast is certainly not good for his health.
Great points!!
    02-14-2011, 08:51 AM
You just have to remember that this is a forum and we can only go by what is written in your posts. Nobody was being rude, especially me. I work for a vet and have been involved with horses and dogs for way more years than you have been born, as have alot of us. So, when someone comes on the forum and tells about her horse and how bad a shape it is in, then most of us will immediately go into "protection" mode for the horse.
It sounds like you care for the horse. Like I said in another post, you need to get a vet to see the horse immediately. If your parents won't pay the vet cost because it is not actually "your" horse, even though you have been caring for it for over year, then the owner needs to step in and spend the at least minimal amount of money to have a vet check this horse. If the owner still refuses to have a vet check the horse, then unless A/C steps in or the barn owner, it sounds like this horse might just be left to continue to get worse and worse, possibly die since nobody feels a vet is necessary. Is this your barn the horse is at? If not, does the BO have a vet that comes out? Maybe you can work something out with the vet and the BO to work off the vet call?
Please do not let this poor horse deteriorate until there is nothing left of him.

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