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    02-14-2011, 10:44 AM
  #21
Foal
Wyominggrandma, I want you to understand it is not an idea of that I don't want to get him medical care because he isn't my horse. "I" don't care that he isn't my horse. I just don't have a ton of money to spend on my own. I love this horse to death and I want more than what is best for him. He is UTD on his shots and worming. Yes, it is our barn that he is at. I'm taking him out of his pasture today, and putting him in a stall, and putting him on a better feed. He gets about half a bale to a bale of hay everynight (we feed round bales, but we roll them out so they last longer, but we try to give each horse the equivilance of half a square bale.) Like I said before, I had a very poor choice of wording in my original post. He is not deteriorating. He has just dropped a little weight, and isn't as muscled up as he was, but I also have not been riding him at all, so that is prob. Where a lot of the muscle loss has come from. Again, I just posted a thread here hoping to get some advice, before I tried to take action for him.
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    02-14-2011, 11:20 AM
  #22
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Sounds like you are trying. I would suggest a teeth issue, if his teeth are bad, meaning points are cutting his mouth and gums, possibly a broken tooth, abcess, any number of things in his mouth can cause weight loss and also muscle loss, because the body will use body fat first, then start eating at the muscles to keep itself alive.
Putting him in a stall might help, he won't have to fight for food, but this horse MUST see a vet. If its your barn and you own other horses, doesn't a vet make ranch calls? Don't your parents use a vet when a horse is cut or hurt or sick?
Good luck.. Hope your parents or the horses actual owner finally sees the necessity of this horse seeing a vet and spend the money on him. He deserves that much.
     
    02-14-2011, 01:08 PM
  #23
Foal
It's not like he is fighting to stay alive... I can see maybe 3 ribs on him. Yes, we just took a horse to the vet last week that cut her leg (my horse actually) and I paid for the vet bill. Listen, my parents aren't bad people or anything. Our house burnt down 2 years ago, and we had to take money from our business (boarding and training stables) to be able to make it. We also have a couple boarders who don't pay their board, so we have pretty much been feeding and taking care of their horses out of our own pocket, because even though our contract states that we will sell the horse if the board isn't paid for a certain period of time, we just haven't had the heart to take the horses to a sale, knowing their probable outcome. We really are good people who don't neglect their horses. I promise.
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    02-14-2011, 01:18 PM
  #24
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Your parents own a boarding and training stable, yet won't call the vet out for an obviously sick horse. You have excuse after excuse: the horse was literally wasting away in the first post, now he is not too bad and you take care of your animals, you promise. Yeah, right.
I give up. You just don't get it. You got the attention you wanted by starting this post, I have my doubts now that you even have horses, any horses and are just fabricating stories to get attention. Aren't you in school?
     
    02-14-2011, 01:22 PM
  #25
Weanling
Maybe you should post pictures. That might clear a LOT of confusion. You are switching from very bad to not so bad, no ribs visible to 3 ribs visible. Just throw up some pictures of him maybe before and now?
If he was in a horrible living situation I think it's great that you were proactive in trying to help him.
What bothers me is that your parents won't allow you to call the vet, you have other horses, surely they have seen the vet and your parents know how important it is. Maybe try around different vets? My vet allows payments. Which is a Godsend when you have the habit of taking responsibility for other peoples horses. I completely understand the situation you are in. I'm working with an underweight tb who belongs to a fellow boarder. There is only so much you really can do. But if it's a noticeable weightloss or just poor condition and you haven't changed anything you really should have him looked at. My 10 year old has never had an issue with weight so I can't imagine any normal healthy 10 year old having an issue without something medically wrong.
Bottom line is you agreed to take responsibility for this horse. Nobody is trying to be mean on this forum there is no need to stay away. They are justing giving the advice you asked for, what anyone else would do if they were in your shoes. Call the vet. Do you have a job? If you REALLY want what's best for this horse you need to be proactive. My advice is find a vet who will do payments. Pay for it yourself.
THAT would be making sure the horse has the best quality of life that you can provide. Also, I wouldn't expect it to cost you hundreds of dollars. My vet bill was 400 for everyshot known to man(I take no chnces because I board), coggins, sheath cleaning, teeth floated, bute tablets, coggins on a second horse and a wound check. It is better to spend 150 for a vet visit than 600 for major surgury or euthanisia..
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    02-14-2011, 01:42 PM
  #26
Green Broke
Sluggishness, lack of performance & weight loss are warnings. Have you talked to the owners? Maybe instead of asking them, tell them you will be having a vet out & they will get the bill. Cheaper now than later.
I board horses too & would never keep a horse in a group it didn't like. It's not difficult to make a separate turnout.
It's good you stopped riding him.
If you can't make your parents see things clearly, maybe point out that their clients will notice & will talk. I wouldn't keep my horse at or take my horse to a place that didn't have the best interest of all the horses there, no matter who owned them, as a top priority.
     
    02-14-2011, 01:46 PM
  #27
Showing
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Our house burnt down 2 years ago, and we had to take money from our business (boarding and training stables) to be able to make it.
Nobody else noticed this little gem? Your parents didn't have homeowner's insurance? What about insurance on the boarding/training business?

I think maybe someone is playing Fantasy Island Stables with us.
     
    02-14-2011, 01:49 PM
  #28
Yearling
I would throw another wormer get the vet out and ask can you make repayments he prb needs bloods drawn etc.
It is your responsibility everyone on this forum knows the feeling of being stone broke and your horse needing the vet you must find money somewhere or put a payment plan in place now not later. The earlier you treat something the cheaper it is trust me!
     
    02-14-2011, 01:55 PM
  #29
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Oh yea, I noticed it. This is another girl playing attention getter and wasting folks time.
If parents ran a boarding and TRAINING stable, and didn't care enough to have a boarders FREE horse for their daughter taken care of, something is wrong. The house burnt down two years ago, that's why they can't afford vet bills? A couple of boarders are not paying their bills, so they can't afford vet bills? What kind of boarding training stable is this? A piss poor one from the sounds of it.
I think this little girl has a grandious story to fulfill her dreams and is trying to take us all with her. If this whole sceniero is indeed true, too bad we don't know where she lives and call animal control on the stable. Horses left in pastures for over a year when they are bullied? A pile of hay put aside for him to eat? Now, she is going to put him in a stall? A bit late for that, don't you think?Losing weight, can't take leads, muscle mass dropping off? Neither the owner of the horse or the parents who own a training/boarding stable will have a vet out? For a free horse for the daughter?
Fantasy land....
     
    02-14-2011, 02:03 PM
  #30
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And the OP has dropped from sight.
     

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