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    02-14-2011, 02:03 PM
  #31
Weanling
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Originally Posted by wyominggrandma    
Oh yea, I noticed it. This is another girl playing attention getter and wasting folks time.
If parents ran a boarding and TRAINING stable, and didn't care enough to have a boarders FREE horse for their daughter taken care of, something is wrong. The house burnt down two years ago, that's why they can't afford vet bills? A couple of boarders are not paying their bills, so they can't afford vet bills? What kind of boarding training stable is this? A piss poor one from the sounds of it.
I think this little girl has a grandious story to fulfill her dreams and is trying to take us all with her. If this whole sceniero is indeed true, too bad we don't know where she lives and call animal control on the stable. Horses left in pastures for over a year when they are bullied? A pile of hay put aside for him to eat? Now, she is going to put him in a stall? A bit late for that, don't you think?Losing weight, can't take leads, muscle mass dropping off? Neither the owner of the horse or the parents who own a training/boarding stable will have a vet out? For a free horse for the daughter?
Fantasy land....
Wow...I think you are exactly right...who jokes about things like that?! What a crazy. People genuinly are trying to help and its possible its all a sham?! I NEVER thought someone would make up a story for attention. That's disgusting and I'm dumbfounded.
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    02-14-2011, 02:04 PM
  #32
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She's still on the thread, watching it.

Kymbadina, people do it all the time. Once you've been around awhile, you'll be able to pick them out pretty easily.
     
    02-14-2011, 02:25 PM
  #33
Weanling
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Originally Posted by Speed Racer    
She's still on the thread, watching it.

Kymbadina, people do it all the time. Once you've been around awhile, you'll be able to pick them out pretty easily.
I thought she was really sketchy...what a crazy.
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    02-14-2011, 03:49 PM
  #34
Started
Nah, just children who don't have a life, are bored and like DRAMA. Lol

Its sad, you read a post, feel like the OP is asking for genuine help and then realize its just a joke.
     
    03-30-2011, 08:57 PM
  #35
Foal
I actually felt sorry for her.
     
    03-30-2011, 11:43 PM
  #36
Weanling
I think we can all say that the crazy button has been pressed! Never have I seen someone who talks that much trash... Lying get's you no where barrelracerchick, the only thing it get's you is your own wee corner to glare at. Personally I was not amused at all by ANY of your posts, wyominggrandma was never hateful or cruel at any point in time.

You need a good hard talking to from your parents about real life....

Welcome to the real world, next time back up your statements with some cold hard REAL facts.

Blech this thread made me feel wonky and gross, the way some people's minds work just blows my mind...
     
    03-31-2011, 01:53 AM
  #37
Foal
Yeah, no kidding. I have a gelding that's kind of the same way. He's only 8 y/o and is sort of the same way. He doesnt handle winter well it seems. I have taken the time to just put up a strand of hot wire through the field to keep him seperated from the other horses. He's also the one that gets picked on constantly.
It has helped alot. He's a slow eater and I feed him free choice basically. We have a walk in stall and don't have any actual hay feeders. Those cheap hay nets do wonders I found out last week. I fill 1-2 as full as I can fill it and throw it over the side of the stall high enough that he wont get a hoof in it even if he tries to kick at it. He will spend all day grazing on it.
Another question to ask could be has he normally been blanketed in teh winters? And is he now. I have 1 horse that can stand soaking wet in 20 degree weather and not bat an eye. Another can be dry on a 40 degree day and be shaking. That one stays blanketed most the winter.
Make sure he has a salt lick or even ad salt to his diet. I've read so many articles about some horses drop weight due to not having enough salt in their diet. Salt is needed to help all the other nutrients do their job correctly. I think I read that you could feed a horse something like 30 salt licks either a day or a month(big difference I know) and it still wont give them enough actual salt. Of course most horses do fine without it.
Theres alot of great articles of things you can discuss with a vet on your horses needs suppliment wise. You can have the hay and feed tested to figure out what its lacking and can fill in. I havent gone that far.
I just started mine on a localish new supplement thing called POUNDS. It helps slow the digestive tract naturally so the horse can digest more of the food better. I've only had him on it 1-2 weeks so can't say how it works yet.
Of course there could be a more serious thing going on so like the others said. I had my vet out and he had no clue what was going on. He had some kind of heart problem months ago that the vet couldnt even understand how he was still standing alive. He's been fine since. I could go on and on tonight with this so Ill cut it short. Im by no means an expert on any of this, just thought Id share some info.
     
    03-31-2011, 01:22 PM
  #38
Banned
Well I'm not here to judge anybody, it's not my place.
If the OP is still around, post pics of the horse so we can get a better idea of how he looks. If his spine is sticking up like you say, then he's probably pretty thin.
I know first hand how hard it can be to get a vet out when you're young and your parents pay for most of your stuff and you don't have your own money.
First, I would definitely always feed him seperate, and I think a good idea would be to put him in his own pen where he can get all the hay he wants and finish his grain without being bullied.
You said he was up to date on deworming, but if you use the same drug class of wormer every time, those worms build up a resistance to it. What brand did you use last time, and what did you use the time before that? If you haven't already, go ahead and use a wormer that includes tapeworms. Most don't, but I believe there are 2, maybe 3 that do.
What kind of grain does he get?
Does he act like his teeth hurt?
-Does he spit out wads of partially chewed food?
-Does he tilt his head when eating?
-Under saddle did he shake/toss his head?
Does he seem lame?
In bad weather does he have shelter? Cold horses actually lose weight when they shiver and if it was a particularly long stretch of cold weather, plus add in the fact that he gets pushed away from feed, then that could explain why he's lost weight recently.
Have you noticed any diarrhea?
Does he seem less energetic when you ride, or is it the same no matter what he's doing?

It could be something very serious, or it could be a heavy worm load. I would start by seperating him, and deworm him with the tapeworm dewormer if you haven't done that. If he's still being rode, I'd switch it up and take him down the road or do something different. Horses get bored just like we do and when they get bored with their work they tend to get lazy and shut down. If he's real thin I'd just give him time off.
Keep an eye out for lameness, diarrhea, teeth problems,etc.
You can add wheat germ oil, corn oil, or another fat supplement to his grain, and alfalfa hay is really good for adding weight. It is higher in protein than just grass hay.
     
    06-16-2011, 01:34 AM
  #39
Foal
Hey girl, I have the same problem with a 10 year old horse of mine, I have taken him to the vet, and they don't know what"s wrong with him supposedly. He looks really bad, he has a great appetite and all that but everytime I kick him he tries to rare up like his stomach hurts or something?
     
    06-16-2011, 03:02 AM
  #40
Yearling
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Originally Posted by Wrangler68    
Hey girl, I have the same problem with a 10 year old horse of mine, I have taken him to the vet, and they don't know what"s wrong with him supposedly. He looks really bad, he has a great appetite and all that but everytime I kick him he tries to rare up like his stomach hurts or something?

Switch vets and go from there. Ulcers maybe?

If a child has an unexplained illness- do you stop looking for a diagnoses? No you find a different doctor. Same applies for horses IMO

ETA, I didn't realize this was an old thread. Wrangler68, You will get more feedback from starting your own thread.
     

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