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Dewormer amount

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This is probably a silly question :). My horse is 782lbs. What happens if I give him the full amount of paste from the tube? Say for a 1200lb horse?
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Dewormers are not all the same. Whether it is safe or not would depend largely on what particular dewormer is and how much you are giving.

"Dewormer" is a very large category. Before I went saying "oh its fine" potentially risking my horse harm- I would find out WHICH dewormer it is, what the main active ingredient is as the dewormer, and go from there.
 
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This is the info I found...

Moxidectin has been the subject of controversy and for good reason. It is the only horse wormer that is capable of killing the above larvae in a single dose, which is a very impressive feat. CAUTION: Its liability is that the overdose tolerance threshold is far less than other wormers; 5 times the standard dose can cause significant damage to your horse. Whereas it may be difficult to give an adult horse an overdose 5 times the standard dose, it's extremely easy to make this mistake when worming a foal. As such, at no time would I recommend using this wormer on foals or weakened horses.
The most popular Moxidectin-based wormer is Quest.
 
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Only a few different wormers are dangerous to overdose with. Most others have either a x10 health warning rate, meaning that you'd have to severely overdose for anything to happen. I'd read the warning labels on the tube and look the brand up if I were you. We use Safeguard and it actually has a reading on the tube that says what a safe amount to use is, when you should contact a vet, and symptoms of overdose on it.

I'd really only be worried if you have a wormer with Moxidectin or a Mixidectin derivitive/compound in it, but its good to check just in case.
 
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I used strongoid paste (pyrantel) this time. I usually hand my wormer to someone standing next to me to administer :) but wanted to do it myself this time. I wasn't so confident in my aiming/handling abilities, and I wanted to make sure if I got too much in there it wasnt the worst thing in the world. Apparently gorilla didnt care one bit, and didnt move when I stuck it in the corner of his mouth and shot it in. I got 900lbs in. Thank you guys for the replies, i'm glad im more informed now!
 
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Actually no, Ivermectrin is one of the safer wormer catagories to OD a horse with, supposively. It has a x60 rate of harm so there's practically no chance of hurting a horse by giving it a bit too much. Zimectrin Gold is actually only cautioned because of the Praziquantel in it. Even so, it has a x10 toxicity level so its really only unsafe to give to a foal or miniature horse, since you can't really overdose a horse accidently on it. Even two tubes most likely wouldn't do any harm.
 
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If you want to sweeten up your deworming sessions in the future, dipping the tip in a little molasses can help. Also, some horses are very very good at holding their dewormer and not swallowing it ;) so please be sure he is. What I do with the smarty pants horses who know that trick is to hold their chins very gently and massage a little around the corners of their mouths until they swallow :) Good work on deworming him yourself, and I'm glad he was a good boy for you.
 
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If you want to sweeten up your deworming sessions in the future, dipping the tip in a little molasses can help. Also, some horses are very very good at holding their dewormer and not swallowing it ;) so please be sure he is. What I do with the smarty pants horses who know that trick is to hold their chins very gently and massage a little around the corners of their mouths until they
swallow :) Good work on deworming him yourself, and I'm glad he was a good boy for you.
Thanks :) was in front of his stall for about an hour after I gave it to him because I was punching extra holes in a breastcollar I bought. I threw a treat in his feedbox just to make sure he swallowed, and he drank water. I kept a good eye on him. Thanks for the molasses tip!
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Also, let me add...
When I ask questions on here, so many people bring so many answers and opinions, and that's a GREAT thing for me, because it gets me thinking about things I wouldn't have considered or known to watch out for, and I learn what to research, and I also learn more questions that I should be asking. I LOVE different opinions, thoughts, perspectives, etc. Its good for my brain :)
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Asking questions on the internet is never a bad thing. It can lead to the spread of tricks and ideas. However you DO need to keep in mind that Dr. Google needs to have his license revoked. (i.e., trying to get veterinary information over the computer can go very badly.)

There is quite a bit more information that is wrong on the Internet than is correct- and quite a few of the people who are very, very wrong can seem like they know what they are talking about.

I've known many, many people who got seriously bad information over the Internet- like the guy who tried to feed his dog a pound of milk-soaked cotton balls for a chocolate toxicity (foreign body), the woman who fed her dog Tylenol for his arthritis (it's toxic!), or the woman who called a vet three days after her dog had been vomiting because an "internet forum told her it was bloat and her dog could die." Or the guy who diagnosed his dog (correctly) from research over the internet with an anaphylactic reaction- only to try to double check the dose AFTER he had already given the dose the "internet" had given him. He wanted to make sure he hadn't given too much- luckily his dog did okay when it was given 5 times the recommended dose because he waited 6 hours to call us. (He was giving the Benadryl to a toy breed- the woman he had gotten the dose from had a German Shepherd.)
 
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Asking questions on the internet is never a bad thing. It can lead to the spread of tricks and ideas. However you DO need to keep in mind that Dr. Google needs to have his license revoked. (i.e., trying to get veterinary information over the computer can go very badly.)

There is quite a bit more information that is wrong on the Internet than is correct- and quite a few of the people who are very, very wrong can seem like they know what they are talking about.
I've known many, many people who got seriously bad information over the Internet- like the guy who tried to feed his dog a pound of milk-soaked cotton balls for a chocolate toxicity (foreign body), the woman who fed her dog Tylenol for his arthritis (it's toxic!), or the woman who called a vet three days after her dog had been vomiting because an "internet forum told her it was bloat and her dog could die." Or the guy who
diagnosed his dog (correctly) from research over the internet with an anaphylactic reaction- only to try to double check the dose AFTER he had already given the dose the "internet" had given him. He wanted to make sure he hadn't given too much- luckily his dog did okay when it was given 5 times the recommended dose because he waited 6 hours to
call us. (He was giving the Benadryl to a toy breed- the woman he had gotten the dose from had a German Shepherd.)
Agreed :) I try to keep in mind to always take everything with a grain of salt...
I do think the Internet gives a great starting point of questions
to ask, and interesting things to research further. I absolutely understand your point., and will keep it in my head for sure.
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