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  • Shock wave therapy for horses with ringbone
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    09-27-2012, 05:13 PM
  #21
Weanling
Is it high ringbone or low ringbone? We had an older upper level dressage schoolie that was diagnosed with high ring bone, she did really well on a combination of Aspireaze (horsey aspirin) and monthly or bi-monthly shockwave treatment. She still had off days, especially in bitter cold or wet weather, but was perfectly happy to do her job. It became more of a mechanical lameness than a painful one after the bone remodeled quite a bit (the pastern area just didn't have the range of motion it used to, but it no longer caused her pain). And she no longer had to be on NSAIDS. She was able to continue being a third level schoolie for over five years after diagnosis, then she got to be a pasture ornament ;). Because of the ringbone she wasn't competition sound, but she was servicably sound and loved her job. She taught a many a rider to be a better rider.

All hope is not lost!

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    09-27-2012, 06:11 PM
  #22
Yearling
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Originally Posted by SaddleOnline    
Is it high ringbone or low ringbone? We had an older upper level dressage schoolie that was diagnosed with high ring bone, she did really well on a combination of Aspireaze (horsey aspirin) and monthly or bi-monthly shockwave treatment. She still had off days, especially in bitter cold or wet weather, but was perfectly happy to do her job. It became more of a mechanical lameness than a painful one after the bone remodeled quite a bit (the pastern area just didn't have the range of motion it used to, but it no longer caused her pain). And she no longer had to be on NSAIDS. She was able to continue being a third level schoolie for over five years after diagnosis, then she got to be a pasture ornament ;). Because of the ringbone she wasn't competition sound, but she was servicably sound and loved her job. She taught a many a rider to be a better rider.

All hope is not lost!

Good Luck!
Per the vet's report, he has "moderate to severe high ringbone with substantial amount of growth". Not 100% sure what that means but I'm going to be stopping by the clinic tomorrow to pick up some bute and I'll see if he can show me the xrays. I'm really interested to see what it looks like.

Anyway. Hearing that, with time, it will become less painful is reassuring. I was under the impression that it was only going to get worse. His official recommendation (just got off the phone with him) was to have corrective shoes put on his back feet, put him on a good joint supplement and bute as needed. I don't plan on competing. I'll settle for a happy horse that is sound enough to take out on the trails.

What is shockwave treatment? That sounds interesting.
     
    09-27-2012, 10:00 PM
  #23
Super Moderator
I'm sorry to hear all of this.

Since the seller is willing to return your money and take the horse back, that is sure what I would recommend. He is going to be a huge money pit and will always have problems that require a lot of money and give you a lot less riding time. I would take advantage of a nice seller like this one that sold him to you. JMHO.
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    09-27-2012, 11:46 PM
  #24
Yearling
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Originally Posted by Cherie    
I'm sorry to hear all of this.

Since the seller is willing to return your money and take the horse back, that is sure what I would recommend. He is going to be a huge money pit and will always have problems that require a lot of money and give you a lot less riding time. I would take advantage of a nice seller like this one that sold him to you. JMHO.
Yes, definitely. If it ends up that he is going to need injections or surgery I am definitely going to think long and hard about whether I should keep him. Im so in love with him that I just have to try first.
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    09-27-2012, 11:47 PM
  #25
Yearling
I agree with Cherie - I had a great gelding that had high ringbone, he eventually became unsound and was retired to be a walk/trot horse at the tender age of 11. You just got him and while it is admirable that you want to see this through, it probably isn't the decision that will give you a usable friend and companion for the next 20 years. If you would have known this a few months ago, you would have passed on him - let his very generous former owners take on the burden and search for the next great one that can do whatever you want to do... so sorry to hear of this, he is a very cute gelding.
     
    09-28-2012, 10:35 AM
  #26
Weanling
Shannon Sevenfold- Shockwave is like a concentrated ultra-sound wave that can help speed healing and remodeling- I am not a vet, yours could probably explain it better. It isn't a very cheap option, although it is becoming more and more affordable. We were lucky and located near a university/ got a group discount haha because we had two other horses getting it as well for various issues. It is not a cure all, ringbone is a degenerative condition, for our purposes it was worth it due to the horse's value and training, but after a while the ringbone did advance to a point where we couldn't keep the horse comfortable any more. Since you have the option of returning the horse...just keep that in mind. With treatments and meds you might be able to get some good years, but there will be times when the bone remodeling starts again etc...just things to keep in mind!

Here are some articles on it
Update on ESWT Treatment

Shockwave Therapy for Horses
     
    09-28-2012, 03:11 PM
  #27
Yearling
SaddleOnline - That's interesting! I've never heard of that. But I think that even if they offered that around here at UofM or something, I don't think I could afford it as I'm assuming you have to trailer in on top of the cost of the procedure.

Mini-Update: I stopped by the clinic today to pick up his xrays for the farrier and some bute tabs and my vet happened to walk in while I was standing there. He took me into a side room with a light board and showed me his xrays and took the time to explain exactly what he was looking at, etc. It was really cool, and it's nice that I understand a little better now. We talked for awhile about options including surgery. He said that in Justin's case, surgery would probably not be worth it because it looks like his pastern joint has already started to fuse on its own. Also, he said the fetlock joint has some substantial loss of cartilage and may actually be causing him more pain than the pastern, and they could fuse that joint as well but then he would be completely unrideable. He told me exactly what to look for in supplements for him and ideal dosages and I was able to find a couple of really good supplements for him at Dover. The farrier is coming out on Monday to put shoes on his back feet. At this point, I am feeling optimistic that with this combination, he will be sound for light riding as bute alone made him comfortable enough to ride. My goal is to find a combination to keep him sound without daily Bute if at all possible.

Woah. Holy no paragraphs. Sorry. :/ Anyway, the vet is fairly confident that, although his condition is advanced, we should be able to get him sound and keep him that way for a few years. At this point, my plan is to go ahead with this treatment plan knowing that he may end up as a pasture ornament in the foreseeable future. At that point, he will probably become my son's horse and I will buy a new riding horse. If he ends up needing injections or more intense treatment, he will be going back to his previous owner.

I will attach some pictures of his feet (it's his left hind) in case anyone is interested along with his xrays. I had to play with them a little in photoshop to make them bright enough as I had to scan them with my computer which doesn't work so well.
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    09-28-2012, 03:17 PM
  #28
Green Broke
Your vet should be able to do most treatments he would need except very special or rare surgery. Oh and trailering around here is cheap as dirt. There's a rental in Hudson that will rent a new stock trailer for I believe it was $50 a day. So then you just need a truck, not hard to find someone with a truck :)

I hope he gets better. How old is he? I must have missed that part. I bought my horse knowing full well she may be a pasture pet sooner than later since she is 19. At least you have a plan.
     
    09-28-2012, 03:20 PM
  #29
Yearling
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    09-28-2012, 03:21 PM
  #30
Yearling
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Originally Posted by poppy1356    
Your vet should be able to do most treatments he would need except very special or rare surgery. Oh and trailering around here is cheap as dirt. There's a rental in Hudson that will rent a new stock trailer for I believe it was $50 a day. So then you just need a truck, not hard to find someone with a truck :)

I hope he gets better. How old is he? I must have missed that part. I bought my horse knowing full well she may be a pasture pet sooner than later since she is 19. At least you have a plan.
Good to know! I'm so glad you live by me, Poppy. Lol He's 6 which is why this sucks so much.
     

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