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post #1 of 74 Old 09-05-2011, 01:46 AM Thread Starter
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Disposal question

There is a gelding at my barn who is on his way out tonight ... had been starved for a while, bad condition, etc. before he came to his present owner. He was definitely shutting down earlier tonight when we were out there, lying off by himself, stopped eating the past few days, all the signs of leaving us. His owner can't financially afford to have him hauled off after he dies, so tonight there was talk of burning the carcass. Not sure that this will happen, since there is a burn ban here in north TX, and we will probably all chip in to help with the expense, but... my question: if the other horses on the property smell the burning carcass, won't it upset them? There is no option to bury him there.

Please, no commentary about not being able to afford to care for your horse. This guy inherited 2 horses from his dad when he died and has done his best to care for them.
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post #2 of 74 Old 09-05-2011, 02:05 AM
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I guess affording a bullet is out of the question too, huh? No one has the decency to at least put the horse out of its misery? Despicable.
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Bubba13, I would be surprised if he makes it through the night. It is not an acute injury situation where shooting the horse would be in his best interest. My question is about burning a carcass, which won't happen in this case for reasons I stated in my post, the burn ban in north Texas. I was just curious about whether or not burning a carcass would upset the other horses.
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I'm with bubba, allowing the horse to suffer to it's end is really depressing and despicable...

If there is a burn ban, why are you even asking?
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A horse that is not eating is not a horse that has any quality of life. They stop eating as their bodily processes shut down, which is, it should go without saying, more often than not an excrutiatingly painful process. There's a reason that the cessation of food consumption is generally given as the guideline for when euthanasia is justified. I can't believe that the barn owner or other boarders have not attempted or suggested the option of the relief of suffering....I can't imagine if it's a case of head-in-the-clouds or what.

I have not burned a carcass, but have heard it said that it takes an extreme amount of wood, far more than you would expect, and of course is extremely hot, and smelly, and releases toxins and organic material as airborne particles. The fact that a dead horse is being burned is not what will upset the other horses, but the sky-high bonfire sure might, in addition to being dangerous and, from the sounds of your burn ban, illegal.

The price of hauling carcasses off varies from location to location. Some areas, I hear, do not even offer the service. Here, the rendering plant does pick-up for around $100. And the local dump will accept animal remains, as well, if you bring it to them.
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I'm not even going to touch on letting the horse suffer as it's already been said. If there is a burn ban you cannot burn the body, disposal around here cost me over 300. My suggestion would be to dig a hole and bury the body.
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I'm with bubba, allowing the horse to suffer to it's end is really depressing and despicable...

If there is a burn ban, why are you even asking?
I was just curious, as this situation came up and was wondering about the effects of burning a carcass on other horses. The situation prompted my question. The horse will not be burned on the property. It is just a personal curiosity.

It isn't my horse... the barn manager is letting the owner make his own decisions here. As I said, this horse is probably not going to make it through the night.

If it were my horse, I would definitely have a vet put him down.
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Wait, is he out with other horses currently? And obviously night time, with no supervision....there's a fairly decent chance the other horses, sensing his impending death, can/will turn on him and beat the hell out of him in his final moments. Or that some kind of predator could get to him, depending on what sorts of animals are in the area. Someone should call the sheriff or animal control and have them go out and shoot him tonight....
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and we will probably all chip in to help with the expense
Then chip in to have the poor thing put down and put him out of his misery instead of chipping in to buy bloody firewood, seriously now! What ARE you guys thinking

That poor horse dying a slow agonizing death will freak out the other horses more then burning him would...

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If you are all chipping in to the disposal costs then I'm sure some one will have/be able to get/hire a bloke with a gun and a bullet.

It is unbelievebly cruel to leave this horse to die a long, protracted death. Hell if it came to it, put it on a credit card or i'm sure a rescue society would do the decent thing.

Infact if it ever happend on a yard I was on I would pay the vet for the owner and if the owner payed me back all the better but even if they didnt at least I wouldnt have the pain and stress of the horse on my concience.

If you can't afford a horse then the best thing is to sell it or give it away.

Probably best that the horse dies if that is the level of care the owner shows for it.

Dieing slowly hurts just as much as dieing quickly. When my arab died it was clear that he had been down most of the day and by the time I found him probably only had a couple of hours left, he was dieing infront of my eyes. I still got the vet out to put him to sleep because at least I could end his pain and not let him suffer for those 2 hours!

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