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        12-08-2011, 10:13 AM
      #11
    Green Broke
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Beauseant    
    Did it withstand the beating?? Because I just KNOW Beau is going to give it one....


    He is not going to like picking his food out of the holes. His usual way of eating is to open his mouth real wide and shove his face into the grain, then close it...trying to get as much as possible with the fewest bites...
    Yep, those things are built like Tonka Trucks!!
         
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        12-08-2011, 10:35 AM
      #12
    mls
    Trained
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Joe4d    
    Pellets are also more known for choking than a textured feed.
    Incorrect. Pellets dissolve and break down. Other feeds lodge and require mechical intervention to displace.
         
        12-08-2011, 11:59 AM
      #13
    Green Broke
    My horses are cursed with choking. Some people have horses prone to colic, I have choking.

    My late horse Mango actually passed away after choking, the vet wasn't able to fully unblock him, the vet accidently punctured his throat or something and a day later Mango was gone:((
    Then I had Rebel, who thought it funny to choke, I think he did it a grand total of 8 times. Twice in one week at one point! GAH!
    Dream has choked once or twice, always from something stressing her out. She makes a huge deal out of it but always coughs it back up after a few minutes of walking around.

    I learned to soak my feed and put it in a long metal manger. That way they have to chase their food around, and it's spread out thinner and they can't get huge mouth fulls.
         
        12-08-2011, 12:00 PM
      #14
    Green Broke
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by mls    
    Incorrect. Pellets dissolve and break down. Other feeds lodge and require mechical intervention to displace.
    Pellets don't break down super quick however. The only times my horses have ever choked, was on Senior Feed or Strategy. Pellets clump up together, oats and such won't do that.
         
        12-08-2011, 01:28 PM
      #15
    Banned
    Joe, his problems aren't with food aggression towards people. It's aggression towards other horses AND the food itself!

    Here is a short vid I took. It shows him throwing his head and pinning his ears at Epona, and since he has dutch windows, we just feed him through the window. At his ex farm, we had to enter his stall to feed him and he was taught that he was NOT to charge the human or try to knock the bucket out of his hands. AT THIS FARM, my son pours his grain into the bucket through the window, and he is not allowed to charge the bucket or knock it out of my son's hands. He is also not allowed to charge into the bucket while the grain is being poured. He must wait 5 seconds before gulping... In the vid you can see him turn his head away from the bucket while it is being poured. So...the problems are with his eating habits themselves. What you can't see in the vid is him gulping down a huge mouthful of grain, nor does the vid show him throwing his head wildly as grain flies out of his mouth, charging at Epona through the bars, or kicking the wall....that all came later.

    See vid:
    I am going to take a FULL vid of his feeding this evening, as the aggression comes while he is eating....I'd like some opinions when I post this vid this evening if YOU all think his aggression is over the top or more or less "normal".

    Stay tuned for his food aggression vid this evening...


    So to clarify, the aggression is towards Epona and the food itself.
         
        12-08-2011, 02:35 PM
      #16
    mls
    Trained
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by MangoRoX87    
    Pellets don't break down super quick however. The only times my horses have ever choked, was on Senior Feed or Strategy. Pellets clump up together, oats and such won't do that.
    Oats and corn do not break down with moisture added. They also scratch the throat.

    What is your feed regime? If horses are hungry - they will bolt their food - thus choke. Do you feed in small tubs so they are able to grab giant mouthfuls?
         
        12-08-2011, 02:42 PM
      #17
    Banned
    Mls, If you were asking me that question, my horses are never hungry. Both are big, really really fat pigs!!

    Seriously, both Beau and Epona are overweight for their breeds. Vet says Beau is a 6 and Epona is a 7.5 on the body score chart..I am thinking Beau is more of a 6.5 or a 7, though....so in Beau's case, he is not bolting out of hunger.

    Oddly enough, he even bolts his hay AND grass. Many times he will eat his grass so fast it clumps together in his mouth that he has to spit it out or cough it out..... How weird is that?!
         
        12-08-2011, 04:16 PM
      #18
    Super Moderator
    If he is so violent with his bucket, why not build in a fixed feeder that is firmly attached to the wall. Then, just put the bucket in that. Throwing a bucket around, spilling feed, is just not acceptable.
         
        12-08-2011, 10:15 PM
      #19
    Weanling
    I just bought one for my mare last Friday! I LOVE it! I've tried corner buckets, normal buckets, and feed bags. My mare will fling all of her feed out of the corner buckets and it off the ground, sand included. With the normal buckets she'd take huge mouth fulls and let it drop to the ground eating it that way. The feed bags worked the best but she'd tear them up really quick, and I just couldn't keep buying/ordering them. Even then I was worried that she would be eating too much at one time and I just couldn't tell. So I bought her the Pre-vent feeder. It is amazing! All of her eating habbits have stopped because her feed fits into the holes, preventing her from flinging it all to the ground. The holes are shapped so that she can't fit her hole mouth into it, making her nibble from the top and then licking when she gets to the bottom of the hole. Because of how wide the bucket is she feels comfortable and keeps her head down. I just love this bucket. I'm not sure how durable it is since i've only had it a week and I take out after each meal because my filly was putting her foot in it and kicking and pulling it (with her feet arg).
         
        12-09-2011, 12:58 AM
      #20
    Banned
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Allison Finch    
    If he is so violent with his bucket, why not build in a fixed feeder that is firmly attached to the wall. Then, just put the bucket in that. Throwing a bucket around, spilling feed, is just not acceptable.

    All the stalls in the stable have a built in corner feeder..we removed it. It was very small and shallow, and when he threw his head wildly, he would knock his head against the wall. His current feed tub is attached by bucket straps on three sides and he STILL flings it about madly.

    The truth is, I don't care about grain waste. I should, but I am too busy worrying about him having another severe choke like the last one. I can't go through that again. So we decided to give this miracle pre vent feeder a try. If it works it will be the best 118 dollars I ever spent!!! If it doesn't work, then we have few options left but to worry ourselves to death waiting for Beau's next choke episode.
         

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