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    05-04-2010, 11:55 AM
Hehe, I keep fish in my troughs sometimes....if I remember to go and buy them. One year I kept them in all winter and they all froze in a block of ice....Eh. Fishcicles.
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    05-04-2010, 01:29 PM
Green Broke
Hahaha. We live to far south for our water troughs to freeze solid. The most we've had is an inch or two of ice. Back on topic.. I was searching for the old thread about pennies in the water trough. I forgot what that said, but it's supossed to help control algea growth? Our cattle trough is fulllllllllllll of algea and I was wondering what could control it for cheap and is safe for all animals? (including fish)
    05-04-2010, 01:39 PM
No, the pennies in the water trough are supposed to help moody mares, not keep algae from growing.
    05-04-2010, 09:33 PM
Originally Posted by Speed Racer    
No, the pennies in the water trough are supposed to help moody mares, not keep algae from growing. does that work? Can't say I've ever heard of that....

Btw: I bought 2 gold fish and a sucker fish (phecotsumous (sp?) )...yeah, let them adjust to the water for about 30 minutes...put them in the trough...about 3 hours later, I had three dead fish floating...dont think they liked the well water...idk??? Lost cause for I just cleaned it today really good...took me about 45 minutes!!! Phew!!! Lol
    05-05-2010, 12:54 AM
Green Broke
Originally Posted by maderiaismine05    
Im wondering how these fish would do in the florida heat though....? today was 93 degrees...and so I imagine that the water isnt the least not in two of the 4 troughs we have...the other two are in the shade...and sorry OP..not meaning to interupt the post.
I live in AZ & the fish did fine in our tank even in the middle of summer when it was triple digits.
    05-07-2010, 02:34 PM
This thread took off! Lol
I've decided against the fish. To reply to a Previous poster, dumping and scrubbing definitely is hard work and time consuming when you have as many draft horses and troughs as I have to take care of..... and only ONE horse and trough is mine. Certain people just don't like to lend a hand and be responsible for their own horses. ANYWHO! Lol

Mosquitos are BAD here. We're surrounded by farm land. Lots of water. I'm severely allergic to mosquitos. If I don't wear spray, I end up with a hundred-plus bites in one night.... AND they swell to the size of baseballs and turn into horrible bruises. (actually took sandpaper to my legs once, the itch was so impossible to endure).

So, I hate the things.

BUT, started thinking. I don't have my horse at home.... I board. In order for the mosquitos to go away, EVERYONE on the facility would have to protect their water from larvae. That'll never happen. I've heard a lot lately about garlic. Feed your horses minced garlic or in pill form in grain and the mosquitos stay off your horses.... flies, too (among other beneficial things). It's worth a shot... Anyone do this?
    05-07-2010, 04:17 PM
Feeding Garlic - The Great Garlic Debate
By Karen Hayes, DVM, MS

There's a toxic element in allium (a family of plants including both garlic and onions) of a chemical called N-propyl disulfide. By altering an enzyme present within the red blood cell, it depletes the cell of a chemical known as phosphate dehydrogenase (PD), whose job is to protect the cell from natural oxidative damage.

When the PD level gets low enough, the hemoglobin in the cell oxidizes and forms a "bubble" called a Heinz body on the outside of the cell. The spleen, which acts as a red-cell "bouncer" of sorts, quickly removes the deformed cell from the bloodstream. As more and more red cells are prematurely damaged and removed, as will happen from consistent poisoning with N-propyl disulfide, your horse gradually becomes anemic. This is called Heinz-body anemia.

No well-designed, formal research has been conducted on the ill effects of lower doses of garlic on horses. But, to be fair, there also hasn't been any well-designed, formal research on the benefits of garlic in horses. For example, I've seen lots of horses reeking of garlic and crawling with flies, though garlic is reputed to be an effective fly repellent.

It isn't enough to say garlic is safe just because you haven't seen any ill effects in your garlic-supplemented horse. Depending on the dose, and the frequency and duration of dosing, there could be low-grade deleterious effects, due to red-blood-cell damage that's not enough to cause a 911 situation, but just enough to cause a mild anemia that might not be outwardly evident. It might affect your horse's stamina, energy level, or resistance to disease.

Until these suspicions are investigated and repudiated, how much risk are you willing to take? Until well-designed, formal research is done on garlic's risks and benefits, specifically in horses, it seems the only safe avenue is the avenue of caution.

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