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post #1 of 6 Old 11-04-2010, 09:00 PM Thread Starter
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Red face Does he have a vertical shoulder?

Vertical shoulders are common in Quarter horses. I have a quarter horse and he is heavy on the fore-hand. I am getting a horse chiropractor to help his sore back. someone from my barn said it to lengthen his stride a little more. It isnt too choppy at all just a little that true? my trainer said the best confirmation to have is with a sloping shoulder. does my horse have a sloping shoulder? he is a little downhill not tremendously though XP

how is his conformation in general? im jumping him with hunter jumpers...may eq. if he is good enough.. thanks :) needs lots of input.

the first picture is when i first got him the last to are newer when he is a little more fit :P
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post #2 of 6 Old 11-04-2010, 10:42 PM
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Brodie is lovely. ( I assume that's his name). In the first shot, winter, I thought his should did look rather vertical, but the other shots show it as average, if you ask me. As you said, QH's have more vertical shoulder, but not as vertical as say a friesian or morgan. MAany horses that were bred to both ride and drive have a more vertical shoulder, better for pulling.
I think your horse looks very nice, from what I can see. Handsome, no less.

The English saddle in the trailer shot sits kind of funny, as judging by the angle of the cinch. Something is odd about it. It may just be sitting too far back, or it may be a poor fit overall.
There was a thread back a bit about saddle fit where someone posted nine short Youtube vids from Jocum Schlesse (or was that Johan?). Anyway, one thing he talked about was that the saddle, when positioned correctly on the horse's back , should have the girth fall verticall in the correct place for tightening. Wish I could remember which thread that was . . . ?

My middle aged brain is only half here most of the time. Anyone have the other half?
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post #3 of 6 Old 11-04-2010, 11:44 PM
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He has a pretty upright shoulder. The first and last pictures show it best. The middle picture is at an off angle, which can distort a horse's conformation. His hip angle is also on the flat side, which would make it more difficult for him to get his rear under him and push effectively from behind. So, between the two, an upright shoulder and a flat hip angle, it makes it very difficult for him "not" to be on the forehand.

He doesn't look downhill to me though. His withers look the same height as his croup, or even a bit higher, which actually is to his benefit.

The saddle is in the correctly position, and looks okay in balance, the girth is just placed too far forward. He has a forward girth groove, so it would be best to use the front two billets to keep the girth and saddle in alignment.

To help fix his tipping on the forehand, you might consider some dressage lessons and/or training for him.
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thank you :) the girth was my fautl i pulled it forward when i was testing how tight. I am working on hills with him and i rode him tonight after and he was gorgeous! and tinyliny thats ok :) and luvs2ride1979 thank you i looked at him tonight compared to my my friends thoruough bred he has somewhat ofan upright shoulder but i dont think it bothers him to much. i think it is just a muscle issue...he doesnt have the right amount which is what im working on now.
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post #5 of 6 Old 11-06-2010, 08:53 AM
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You can't fix an upright shoulder by building muscle. Now, you can make his withers look a bit less prominent with more muscle and topline, but the shoulder angle won't look any different.
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ok. my trainer is going to work on dressage with me. we will see how that goes
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