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post #11 of 64 Old 07-26-2009, 09:06 PM
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Please get the vet out to your place tomorrow. I am afraid you're totally over your head with this horse. Please realize I'm saying this without any ill will. People have given you ideas about diet but you can kill your horse if you change his diet quickly.

How did you determine what to feed your horse? The foods you're feeding are not usual horse diets. Most people feed hay diets. In the summer, good grass may be all that's necessary. Please be very careful at changing your horse's diet. You don't want him to colic or founder.

I have a chronically ill child. I know that at times I've not been able to look at her and tell how skinny she was. Because I knew that this was tough I'd look at her in pictures to tell how she was doing. There's no doubt that this horse is in serious trouble.

I would guess that you don't have a lot of horsey experience. If you're having these issues with feed, I'd bet that you're also having or headed towards training issues. Do you have an instructor? Do you take lessons? Do you keep your horse alone?

Again, I am not trying to sound mean but please call the vet in the morning. Please consider getting some serious ongoing assistance with your horse.

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post #12 of 64 Old 07-26-2009, 09:08 PM
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We are only saying this because we care - you really do need to get help with your horse. For your horses sake.

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post #13 of 64 Old 07-26-2009, 09:12 PM
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That is a good and dependable site for knowing where your horse should score on the Henneke Scale, and here is a link for knowing where your horse is. . .

I think these photos could be clearer. It would be ideal if they could track a rescue horse through the stages from 1 to ideal to give us a more clear idea since the scores look different from horse to horse.

I would say your horse is a 4 in the top photos and really, he is still a four, but could just use something for his topline.
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post #14 of 64 Old 07-26-2009, 10:24 PM
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I agree, I would have the vet out to check/float his teeth and do a fecal test to check for parasites. When was the last time his teeth were done? When were the last TWO times he was dewormed and WHAT PRODUCTS did you use?

The most recent shots show that he has lost a lot of muscle all over, includeing hip, shoulder, and topline. He's also lost condition/weight, with more ribs showing. He needs 100-150 lbs in muscle. Using alfalfa pellets, rice bran or flax, vitamins, and free choice hay will help him gain weight, if his teeth are in good shape and he's been recently (and properly) dewormed.
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post #15 of 64 Old 07-27-2009, 09:13 AM Thread Starter
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He just got his teeth floated last thursday. He also got dewormed again last friday this time specifically for tape worms via the dentist's suggestions. He got dewormed right before we got him as well.

I am going to look into getting stuff to help clear out any sand as a couple people have suggested to me. The one that actually suggested the cracked corn to me was the farrier, I personally wasn't convinced after I did a lot of reading and heard that it can make them hotter, but I figured the farrier probally knew more than me. I will look into Amplify, or should I just get the "plain whole flax" if so is there a certain way to prepare it?

Joshie - No offense taken. I have been riding horses for about 11 years now, Rocket is kept at one of the best boarding barns in the area, the owner has over 30 years of experiance with horses. All of her horses live extremely healthy lives well into their 30s (yes I said 30s, there is a 32 year old lesson horse there still going strong). The two horses that I had before just had to look at grain to get fat, so I am learning a lot about the opposite type of horse.
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post #16 of 64 Old 07-27-2009, 09:53 AM
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WHAT was he dewormed with? Exactly? How long was it between the two dewormings?

Your farrier was very wrong about the cracked corn. It's fine for cows or chickens, but it's not a good horse feed.
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post #17 of 64 Old 07-27-2009, 10:17 AM Thread Starter
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I don't know what he was wormed with before I got him, I will check into what kind of wormer we just gave him, but it was one just for tape worms.
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post #18 of 64 Old 07-27-2009, 10:54 AM
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I agree with others that he should be on more of a forage diet. I would also like to point out that a lot of the muscle wastage on his topline has to do with his posture. Once he is getting everything nutritionally that he needs, you may want to find someone who can help you with a physical program for him. Once his body is functioning better, he will be able to put the nutrition to better use.
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post #19 of 64 Old 07-27-2009, 11:59 AM
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i would look into Amplify because it has whole flax AND other stuff. Look up a worming schedule online. you cant just worm him with any old wormer. there are different kinds for different seasons and different worms

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post #20 of 64 Old 07-27-2009, 02:28 PM Thread Starter
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I know there is for the wormer. We were treating him specifically for the tape worms. The barn has a regular worming schedule that he will become a part of.

I couldn't find the Amplify, the local feed store suggested a different brand of weight building supplement so we shall see how he does on it.
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