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post #31 of 64 Old 07-29-2009, 02:50 AM
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you buy whole feed barley and boil it before feeding =]
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post #32 of 64 Old 07-29-2009, 11:06 AM Thread Starter
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Do you have to do anything with beet pulp before you feed it? I'm trying to also make things as simple as possible for the BO.

I personally thought some of the reactions that were posted were a little extreme, I just wanted help, not a guilt trip. He is ribby, but his coat is soft and shiney and his eyes are bright, so hopefully some changes will give him that extra umph to gain some weight.
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I have to agree with you, QHDragon, some people take to extremes on here. Sometimes I think they assume the worst, you know? But you don't have to do everything they have said, talk to a vet or someone that knows a lot about horse feed.

Yes, you should soak the beet pulp before feeding it. I have had success with my TB hard keeper with a good bit of sweet feed (just as long as he's being exercised, lol) and beet pulp. I've had a lottttt of success with Fat Cat, which is relatively inexpensive. Right now I have my horse on corn oil which does help. I've tried flax seeds, and I'm not sure how much they did, but they do make them shiney!!

Make SURE you talk to someone in your area about this. You shouldn't have to depend on people online you've never met before. Yes, they are knowledgeable, but they don't necessarily know whats right for you and your horse.

Good luck! :]

PS: YES! More forage is a miracle worker!

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post #34 of 64 Old 07-29-2009, 11:29 AM
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PS: YES! More forage is a miracle worker!
Exactly. Good hay does wonder. You can also buy squared bales yourself (including alfalfa), and give him as an extra. Right now grass hay in my area is $4, and I feed little less then half-bale to each mine (they are not going to pasture much though). When I got both my yearlings underweight I added corn or veggie oil to each feed. Now I still do (just not as much).
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post #35 of 64 Old 07-29-2009, 12:36 PM
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I agree with you as well; some responses seemed very extreme. I would understand if he was skin and bones, but he really looks okay overall.

I do not soak the beet pulp, but it seems many people do because of fear the horse may strangle on it. Studies suggest most horses can eat it in dry shreds without a problem though.
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post #36 of 64 Old 07-29-2009, 01:24 PM Thread Starter
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I had heard that corn oil could help too from a couple people at the barn, maybe I will ask about adding corn oil instead of cracked corn and look into either the beet pulp or the alfalfa cubes that were mentioned above, I think the BO all ready has the cubes and the corn oil in the feed room.
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post #37 of 64 Old 07-29-2009, 03:42 PM
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Do you have to do anything with beet pulp before you feed it? I'm trying to also make things as simple as possible for the BO.
You don't have to do anything to it if your horse doesn't bolt his feed. If he does gobble his food fast, then you'll want to soak it for 15 minutes or so.

You do not have to soak alfalfa pellets, as they crumble easily when the horse chews.

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I personally thought some of the reactions that were posted were a little extreme, I just wanted help, not a guilt trip. He is ribby, but his coat is soft and shiney and his eyes are bright, so hopefully some changes will give him that extra umph to gain some weight.
No, he's not terribly skinny, but he's gotten worse since you got him and you said you've been trying to put weight on him. Which is why we are concerned. Giving more food without good results means you're either giving him the wrong food (too much starchy/sugary grain and not enough hay is my guess) or there's something wrong with him (bad teeth, parasites, ulcers, etc.). Since his coat is good, he has okay muscle tone (for what muscle he has left) and his feet don't look crumbly, then it's not likely that he has anything wrong with him. So, you need to look more closely as his diet.

I have been in your situation with three different horses now, similar breeding (TB or half TB). What WORKED in each situation is no grain, more hay, alfalfa and/or beet pulp, and a fat supplement (flax or rice bran).

IME corn oil didn't work as well as flax or rice bran, but if you have it, it's worth a try.
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post #38 of 64 Old 07-29-2009, 04:08 PM
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If you get the sugarbeet thats like,the big pellets, its good to soak it overnight, i personally would soak it overnight regardless. my routine everynight would be, get his bucket, scoop of sugarbeet in bucket with hot water, and take a scoop of barley to the kitchen, where I boil it, as soon as it beginsto pop i chuck it in the bucket with the sugarbeet and leave it, by the morning its all nice and ready to feed.
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post #39 of 64 Old 07-29-2009, 07:37 PM
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warm beetpulp is also a nice breakfast/dinner for your horse in winter. lol!

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post #40 of 64 Old 07-29-2009, 07:40 PM
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Letting beet pulp sit in water for more than 4 hours can cause it to ferment and cause colic. I do not soak it for longer than 30 minutes.
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