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post #41 of 64 Old 07-29-2009, 11:24 PM
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Beet pulp pellets soften up nice in about 30 minutes. I mix it in with rice bran and my horse LOVES it. Beet pulp is good because it's pretty cheap, provides a lot of soluable fiber and works well for weight gain with most horses.
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post #42 of 64 Old 07-30-2009, 09:20 AM
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Actually, if you can borrow some rice bran and beet pulp to see how he'll like it that would be a good idea. I tried both for my horses and NEITHER of them ate it. I tried for several days in row in all different combination - soaked, non-soaked, with grain added, with molasses added, anything. Forget it. I ended up donating almost whole bags to the rescue. And moved back to pellets/oats mix with boss and corn oil added. Just never know....
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post #43 of 64 Old 07-30-2009, 09:40 AM
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Actually, if you can borrow some rice bran and beet pulp to see how he'll like it that would be a good idea. I tried both for my horses and NEITHER of them ate it. I tried for several days in row in all different combination - soaked, non-soaked, with grain added, with molasses added, anything. Forget it. I ended up donating almost whole bags to the rescue. And moved back to pellets/oats mix with boss and corn oil added. Just never know....
Anytime you are adjusting feed, it should be done very gradually (7-10 day period) - so much so that they barely notice the new feed. Start with the old feed and no more than 20-25% new (I usually start with even less) - then change the mix as the days go by. It can take up to two weeks to get a horse to accept new foods. In actuality, making the changes and offering so many combinations in a short period of days likely made them less accepting of the new foods than just sticking with one new method of offering.
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post #44 of 64 Old 07-30-2009, 03:32 PM
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Letting beet pulp sit in water for more than 4 hours can cause it to ferment and cause colic. I do not soak it for longer than 30 minutes.
ive never had this problemand mine sits for up to 36-48 hours at times and ive been feeding it for ages now. I use the big pellets and feed them like 2 hours after soaking if I can. nice warm dinner =]
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post #45 of 64 Old 07-30-2009, 05:04 PM
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more hay! also i had a hard keeper and I incorporated Strategy(with more hay) and it did wonders :)

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post #46 of 64 Old 07-30-2009, 10:34 PM
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so what ya'll are saying is, if I have a horse underweight I can take him off his sweetfeed(grain) that he is on now and just give him alfafia pellets, rice bran or flax seed and a vit. supplement, because my new rescue needs weight and I have him on the same feed the old owner had him on which is obs racing blend(its a sweetfeed) and he always seems wired from the sugar in it, and plus I hate sweet feeds.With all ya'll responds on here it is kinda confusing, but I am really interested in changing his feed,so if someone could pm me and let me know I would really appreciate it.

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post #47 of 64 Old 07-31-2009, 12:57 AM
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ive never had this problemand mine sits for up to 36-48 hours at times and ive been feeding it for ages now. I use the big pellets and feed them like 2 hours after soaking if I can. nice warm dinner =]
Well, you've been lucky then. There have been cases of colic from spoiled beet pulp here in the USA. Beet pulp should not sit after it's been soaked for more than 4 hours, especially in warmer weather or when hot water is used. Better safe than sorry .
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post #48 of 64 Old 07-31-2009, 01:09 AM
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so what ya'll are saying is, if I have a horse underweight I can take him off his sweetfeed(grain) that he is on now and just give him alfafia pellets, rice bran or flax seed and a vit. supplement, because my new rescue needs weight and I have him on the same feed the old owner had him on which is obs racing blend(its a sweetfeed) and he always seems wired from the sugar in it, and plus I hate sweet feeds.With all ya'll responds on here it is kinda confusing, but I am really interested in changing his feed,so if someone could pm me and let me know I would really appreciate it.
Yes! You definitely can! Taking mine off the grain and feed has helped their weight and attitudes tremendously!

Use the rest of your bag of grain. Mix half and half with alfalfa pellets (make sure they have NO molasses in them). Give that for a week. Then over the next week, slowly decrease the grain and increase the AP until you're giving him all Alfalfa pellets. You can feed up to 6-8 lbs of Alfalfa pellets a day. Or, if he won't eat that much, you can feed 4-5 lbs of AP mixed with 3-4 lbs of beet pulp (dry or soaked). Split it between two meals if he won't finish it all.

Really though, most horses will gain weight with just 4-6 lbs of Alfalfa pellets a day, with the fat below, as long as you're feeding as much hay and pasture as he wants. A 3qt feed scoop will hold 3-3.5 lbs of most Alfalfa pellets.

Next, add in a fat supplement (flax, rice bran, or corn oil). You can use whole or ground flax (I like NutraFlax from horsetech.com), any form of rice bran, or plain corn or veggie oil. Start with 1/2 cup per day for a few days, then increase to a full cup. You want to work your way up to either 2 cups of flax, 2 lbs of rice bran, or 2 cups of oil.

For the vitamin supplement, you can use something like Uckele's Equi-Base Grass, SmartPak's Smart Vita Maintenence Grass, Select II, or NutriPlus++ (the most complete out of all of them). All of these provide full nutrition for a horse not receiving fortified grain.

My horses have done beautifully on a grain-free diet. My hard keeper keeps his weight on with only 2 lbs of Alfalfa pellets and 1/2 cup of fat a day, my fatso mare no longer gets so chunky, they are both calmer, their feet and coats are awesome, my mare's PMS is barely there, and they both have plenty of energy for whatever I ask of them. Plus, I SAVE money! My feed bill is cheaper than it was before, because I'm not having to buy as much food, it's cheaper food, and I'm not having to buy as many extra supplements: no more hoof/coat, calming, PMS, or weight gain supplements!!!
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post #49 of 64 Old 07-31-2009, 10:07 AM
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LUVS2RIDE1979: THANK YOU, I am going to try it. Yes they get 24/7 hay. I also give me a flake of peanut hay twice a day with his meals.

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post #50 of 64 Old 07-31-2009, 11:12 AM
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I am trying the above myself. I am switching slowly. I've doing Alfalfa pellets, beet pulp, rice bran and small amount of flaxseed. My mare will not eat anything with oil on it.
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