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    12-29-2009, 08:46 AM
  #21
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Originally Posted by RiosDad    
A 120 pound girl with butt bones pressing into the horse can make for a very uncomfortable ride for the horse and if IF a person could honestly ride for any length of time bareback and at speed, like a good working trot or lope it would not be good for the horse. The saddle spreads the load and makes sure that no extreme pressure points dig into the back.
A don't believe that anyone can really work a horse bareback. Sure a walk in the park but not really work.
Pick a good working trot and hold it for 30 minutes would reduce any bareback rider to mush or even pick a lope and hold it for 30 minutes over hills, up and down and your bareback riding will again be reduced to mush.
We are just not that strong and yes I have loped many a circle bareback in the arena and for extended time.
Did not want to post on here again, but alas, I agree. It is common sense.
     
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    12-29-2009, 08:49 AM
  #22
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Originally Posted by Honeysuga    
Did not want to post on here again, but alas, I agree. It is common sense.
Why not?? And what are you doing up at this hour. It is below 0 F here right now and I am trying to debate if I should head out for a ride or not??

Wanted to post a picture of a trooper saddle in case someone never heard of them. A very comfortable saddle but it keeps you high off the horse and takes getting use to
     
    12-29-2009, 08:55 AM
  #23
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I did not want to post on this again specifically because the bareback issue came up on another thread and I was attacked for being anti bareback, seems like common sense is over ruled by " if she isn't bucking me off, squealing in pain, rearing, ect., it must not be hurting her"... and one study that one person found solidified that in every one's minds, so I did not want to open the same can of worms on this thread,

I am up because I cannot sleep...

I find that saddle interesting btw, do you have any pictures of it w/o your butt in it? (hehe)

And go ride!
     
    12-29-2009, 09:11 AM
  #24
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I noticed you posted at 4:14 AM on another post and you are in the same time zone as I am?? Are you up all night??
On a good horse, an older horse I work at a easy working lope and I will hold it for hours with maybe a short break every hour and uphill or downhill is all the same. The horse keeps loping or trotting, whatever but up of down the pace is manitained. Even in a saddle loping downhill or trotting downhill is hard and you constantly are thrown forward so bareback is impossible. A walk through the bush is different but if you truely work a horse bareback you are going to run into salty sweat, sweat that makes your crotch raw, burns. If you do not make a horse sweat bareback you are not honestly working him.
Anyway the trooper saddle??
Check it out
Haggis Trooper Saddles

PS I am heading out right now, with the windchill it is minus 22 C, darn cold so I will have to take it easy. Have a good day
     
    12-29-2009, 09:13 AM
  #25
Foal
I double on my horse alot of times most walk or jog never canter but not bareback but I was told from a girl on myspace that it was bad for there kindneys
     
    12-29-2009, 09:17 AM
  #26
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I don't think the OP is planning on working her mare double, but my point still stands that I would not do it because I feel it would cause a good deal of discomfort to the horse(and a good bit of unnecessary muscle soreness), especially with 2 pairs of seat bones digging into its back...

Not sure which time zone you are in but it is 7 a.m. Here. And yes, I have been up all night, having trouble sleeping lately, no idea why...

Thanks for the link, I will check it out.
     
    12-29-2009, 09:18 AM
  #27
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Originally Posted by MerlotDotOne    
i double on my horse alot of times most walk or jog never canter but not bareback but I was told from a girl on myspace that it was bad for there kindneys
Punctuation, please.
     
    12-29-2009, 05:46 PM
  #28
Yearling
Thanks for everyones opinions.. so adding them all together..
I have come up with this:
Going for a stroll double bareback is alright, walking, maybe light jog, but cantering could be hurtful to the horse.
No, I would not be working her when going double bareback.
We would only do that to walk down the road, or a light jog on a trail or something.

I will be riding bareback by myself alot, would using a bareback pad be more comfortable for the horse?

Thanks for everyones opinions :)
     
    12-29-2009, 06:09 PM
  #29
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Originally Posted by RiosDad    
A horse's back should not have more then 1 pound per square inch. A typical western saddle is lucky , the bare tree that is, is lucky to have 60 square inches of area actually carrying weight. I measure 2 trees a few months ago when I pulled them from new saddles for custom fitting on the horse.
I am 190 without the saddle or about 210 with a saddle. Divide 210 by 60 and you get 3.5 psi. Still way too much.
I rode in a custom trooper for 20 years that had over 300 square inches of support or under 1 psi and although I rode at 220 pounds and over 30,000 miles not once did I run into a back problem. I kept the psi down.
A 120 pound girl with butt bones pressing into the horse can make for a very uncomfortable ride for the horse and if IF a person could honestly ride for any length of time bareback and at speed, like a good working trot or lope it would not be good for the horse. The saddle spreads the load and makes sure that no extreme pressure points dig into the back.
A don't beleive that anyone can really work a horse bareback. Sure a walk in the park but not really work.
Pick a good working trot and hold it for 30 minutes would reduce any bareback rider to mush or even pick a lope and hold it for 30 minutes over hills, up and down and your bareback riding will again be reduced to mush.
We are just not that strong and yes I have loped many a circle bareback in the arena and for extended time.
i think how you work a horse is different from how I work a horse ;)
I ride in a arena, to work the horse we don't walk trot canter for long periods of time, We collect the horse up (which I can and do do bareback, haha I said do do) and we make them use their back legs and 'sit' on their bum, which if done correctly to a horse being taught this, five minutes of this at trot or canter can be a workout.
     
    12-29-2009, 06:53 PM
  #30
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Originally Posted by ridergirl23    
i think how you work a horse is different from how I work a horse ;)
I ride in a arena, to work the horse we don't walk trot canter for long periods of time, We collect the horse up (which I can and do do bareback, haha I said do do) and we make them use their back legs and 'sit' on their bum, which if done correctly to a horse being taught this, five minutes of this at trot or canter can be a workout.
My idea of a good workout is a nice 10 mile lope. In the winter I catch a snowmobile trial running north, pick up a nice lope and basically hold it for 1 1/2 hours. I then turn around and lope home in about 1 1/4 hours.
In the summer I walk out the lane, pick up a lope and hold it around a big block, I lope right back to the laneway, dismount, loosen the girth and walk the horse in. This was my old guy, the chesnut.
My new youngster works almost daily, 8-10 miles at a nice working trot.
You are not harming a horse with your weight or your light workout.
     

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