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        02-20-2011, 08:55 PM
    Green Broke
    I'll admit even I can't tell the difference in the hay types, and I am still learning the grain types. But I love to learn the differences and I love caring for my horse and mucking out stalls and grooming and I love going out to see them daily even if I don't ride them, just to feed.
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        02-20-2011, 09:53 PM
    That is tragic, but common from what I have seen. My first instructor taught required her students to learn how to groom, tack up, catch, lounge, muck stalls, and lead the horses. That was the absolute minimum we had to know. If you wanted to know more, my instructor gladly would teach/tell you. She also used the misfortune of her horses (an abcess, cuts, lameness, etc.) and turned it into a learning experience.

    I loved learning everything I could, but there were several students who felt completely "put out" by having to clean their lesson horses semi-dirty stall. They thought they were the absolute isht in the saddle. Anything that didn't involve them being in the saddle was beneath them.
        02-20-2011, 10:18 PM
    Green Broke
    My mom always made me learn the basics about keeping horses, it used to drive me insane to have to learn how to feed properly and everything. It taught me a few things and how to take care of my own horse.
    To tell the truth there are so many supplements out there that it would be impossible to learn them all, but to know the basic grains is probably good. It amazes me that those girls didnt know anything like that.
    The way I learned almost everything I have learned is by experience, not drilling it into my head, I can't learn that way. I can tell you what my horse needs, but not when she last got shod, I can tell you why she needs shoes, but not when she last had her teeth done. I can tell when her shoes should be done, and if theres a problem with her teeth, but I don't have those dates in my head.

    Personally I don't think all the kids should be drilled hard and pressured so much to know everything about horses, if someone did that to me it might even pressure me to quite (not saying anyone is doing that) but theyre kids, they need to know the responsibilites, but they also need space to just enjoy it, they should be educated, but not pressured to know too many things.
        02-20-2011, 11:08 PM
    How can they not know that? Just being around horses I learn so much about their daily care. I understand not knowing when you first learn to ride, as you just get a horse handed to you. Being top level riders, however, they need to know the basics of horse care. I can tell you everything my horse gets and why, I can also tell you everything the other two horses at my barn get. I can tell you what my baby horse gets and why, and also the what other horse at my other barn gets!

    Not knowing about shoes, different types of hay, all of those basics? That is apalling. If you can't tell me that this is alfalfa and that is grass and you are between 14 and 17 years old you don't deserve to ride. Maybe I say that because they have been handed all of these opportunities that the rest of us have had to work for. I am 15 right now, and the fact that these girls think they deserve to have everything that they do without knowing how to take care of their own horse just isn't right.
        02-21-2011, 12:40 PM
    I think what you have discovered is true with just about everything kids are involved in now a day. They live in an instant disposible world. They want it now and unfortunately usually get it now. They don't understand having to earn things. I'm not saying all kids are this way but many seem to be.
    Riding should be a privledge and kids should have to care for the horse providing at least its basic needs long before they put a foot in a stirrup but no one is making them. These kids will be the same horse owners who want rid of their horse when it no longer gives them the proformance they expect instead of figuring out why the animal is "off" and trying to fix the problem. And I worry that because of the lack of care training, the next generation will have many more abused and neglected horses than we have now.
        02-21-2011, 01:24 PM
    I really like the sounds of the program your trainer offers. So glad there are still trainers out there that want to teach horsemanship not just riding.

    I think what you are experiencing is pretty common. Not sure if it is a change though. There have always been facilities who only taught riding, not horses.
        03-07-2011, 03:35 AM
    Thats very sad. I was the kid taking ALL the classes at my junior college, and retaining as much as I could.
    I saw an example of this when I took a Livestock Management class (90% of the livestock owners had horses..) and the teacher passed around a stalk of fresh alfalfa in bloom. No one besides myself could identify the plant and a lot of them thought is was a toxic plant due to the purple flower. It was very sad.
        03-07-2011, 05:01 AM
    Green Broke
    Thats sad I find riding a bonus when it comes to horses. I love to just stand around grooming my horses or doing other things for them. I admit I don't know more then the basics when it comes to feed or the very basics when it comes to first aid for horses. That's because no one has taught me these things and the knowledge I do have I have gotten from books. I would love to be able to attend something like what you guys do.
        03-07-2011, 12:04 PM
    This is something I have run into several times and always baffles me.

    My military barn is self help/co-op and we do all our own chores and daily care and feeding. We have had several accomplished riders come in who have no clue how much of what to feed a horse....it's crazy!

    My kids are 4 and 6 and know more about feeding and grooming then some adults I have met! We have an awesome farrier and my kids even know the parts of the hoof!
        03-07-2011, 12:52 PM
    See when I teach a young person riding during their lesson warm up and cool down I teach this stuff...

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