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    08-10-2012, 10:37 PM
  #31
Foal
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Originally Posted by FaydesMom    
Ummm, nobody is "downgrading" you for your care. Your horse is NOT under weight, he no longer needs his supplements for weight gain. It doesn't matter how big he is or what breed, when the ribs are padded over and he's getting "fat rolls" on shoulders and tail head, it's time to cut back to a "maintenance" diet.

You just basically slapped the face of one of the most knowledgeable people on this forum...as you said, "Geez".

Good for her for being the awesomest person on this forum. That's a great feat....
I had a freak out. Who cares.
I came on here for some suggestions and advice. Not to read books of what I should be doing and what I'm doing wrong. That is all. Can everyone please stop jumping on me???? If me and loosie have differences, let her talk for herself. Making me look like the bad guy. When I'm the sweetest person in the world :)
     
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    08-10-2012, 10:43 PM
  #32
Foal
Also.. since it's been awhile since I started this thread. Most of you were right about not needing the grain. To be honest I haven't changed his feed. But I stoped with the coolcal. He finishes his grain now. Maybe not all at once, but over time he'll clean out his bowl.

This is us at our first horse show. I am very proud of him, we got 3rd our first time.
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    08-11-2012, 05:29 AM
  #33
Trained
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Originally Posted by mathensa    
Is this towards me? -.- feels good to have so many 'buddies' behind you huh?
Yes, it was to you. I was quite perplexed at your aggressiveness. Thought you may have stopped feeling so emotional & looked at things a bit more rationally. I don't get the 'buddies' comment, unless you're still having digs?

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I came on here for some suggestions and advice. Not to read books of what I should be doing and what I'm doing wrong. That is all. Can everyone please stop jumping on me????
It feels to me, considering the aggression, that you only came on here to hear what you wanted to hear & when suggestions & advice were given that you didn't like to hear, you took it as a personal attack. You're the only one jumping.

May I suggest in future, if you truly want advice & suggestions, that you read & consider the replies, take or leave them as you see fit, but if you're going to respond to them, don't do it when you're feeling emotional & try to be rational & respectful, as you will find the vast majority here are to eachother, whether or not we have similar opinions or not.
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    08-11-2012, 03:16 PM
  #34
Foal
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Originally Posted by loosie    
Yes, it was to you. I was quite perplexed at your aggressiveness. Thought you may have stopped feeling so emotional & looked at things a bit more rationally. I don't get the 'buddies' comment, unless you're still having digs?



It feels to me, considering the aggression, that you only came on here to hear what you wanted to hear & when suggestions & advice were given that you didn't like to hear, you took it as a personal attack. You're the only one jumping.

May I suggest in future, if you truly want advice & suggestions, that you read & consider the replies, take or leave them as you see fit, but if you're going to respond to them, don't do it when you're feeling emotional & try to be rational & respectful, as you will find the vast majority here are to eachother, whether or not we have similar opinions or not.
That's not true. I take advice all the time. As a first horse owner, you made me feel like I was doing everything wrong. And I freak out of I am doing anything wrong when it involves a life, my horses life!
But once again, you have the upper hand and you are right. I'll take this advice and I won't reply again with an attitude. Sorry. I guess I took you the wrong way.

Is this any better? :)
     
    08-20-2012, 03:30 AM
  #35
nyx
Weanling
I honestly think you just took the way loosie was giving advice the totally wrong way. Which can happen. :)

Happens to me sometimes and I get fired up for no apparent reason but I think the biggest thing is to just take some time to cool off and rethink the situation lol.
But one thing to remember with this forum and with horses is that no matter how much experience one has with horses you can always learn from them. So all advice should be taken on board and well nasty comments just simply ignore them. :)

Sorry but I hate conflict! Lol
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    08-20-2012, 04:11 AM
  #36
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Originally Posted by mathensa    
I couldn't believe someone would say he needed to lose weight when I had a hard time keeping weight on him during the winter! When I got him in november he was already ribby and out of shape.
Its normal for a horses weight to fluxuate during winter and summer. It is dramaticised by new life sytles to the horse too- training, moving home, new feeding regimes etc.

My horse was very skinny by the end of last winter as it was her first winter being worked and I couldn't find feed which didnt cause her ulcers to flare up. The photos attatched are jaunary ish time and now, your lee the difference!

Btw, my gut instinct is that your horse may have ulcers. It is not always the owners fault as some horses are more prone to them. I think its ulcers because the horse is sorting through his food- ie eating the alfalfa which absorbs extra stomach acid (too much acid causes the ulcers), but leaving the sweet feed which will be sugary and starchy which causes the acid to build up.

Is your horse insured? Investigations into ulcers can reach thousands of dollars. I couldn't get a gastroscope due to nasty insurance people so when straight to the management stage: No grain, only alfalfa and grass (/hay in winter), no stabling, and adding a suplement with prebiotics (promote a healthy gut environment). Direct treatment of ulcers is done using a proton pump inhibititor (stops acid secretion) called omeprozole. Very expensive, but one of the few drugs known to help.

Now for my winter/summer pics
Winter pic: you can see her ribs and there is little fat covering across the back. Very little crest too. Doesnt look as ribby as she actually was due to winter fluff and her head being down
Summer: She was slightly over weight in this pic: no ribs, slight belly, small crest and there is a good sized covering of fat over her shoulders and rump. (Shes on a weightloss scheme atm )
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