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post #1 of 12 Old 05-23-2014, 12:20 PM Thread Starter
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Eggs under mane!

Hi there,

I just went out to feed my horses and notice very tiny eggs at the base of my horses's manes. There are tiny bug-like things next to them not much bigger than the eggs.

Are they bots or lice? Please help as I've never seen or dealt with either and I'm about to start panicking.
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post #2 of 12 Old 05-23-2014, 12:52 PM
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If there are bug like things next to them, I would guess lice. Bot eggs are laid by flies, typically on the legs - under the mane would be a strange place for bot flies to get eggs.
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post #3 of 12 Old 05-23-2014, 01:03 PM
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My guess is also lice and lice can be easily transmitted.

Get some lice shampoo "five minutes ago", pin your hair up, put on some rubber gloves, and get busy shampooing. If she doesn't like a bath, too bad, this is no time for her to be fussy, so put a riding crop in the bath bucket if you have to

Follow the instructions on the lice shampoo.

Sterilize all of her combs, brushes, saddle blanket, turn out sheet, everything. Don't put them on another horse.

I am so anal about that sort of thing, I would go so far as to throw my clothes in the garbage - lollol
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post #4 of 12 Old 05-23-2014, 01:06 PM
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Without a picture and just your verbal description, I would guess lice.

There's lice powder out there. You apply it to your horse (and any other livestock the horse is in contact with) and then reapply in two weeks when the new eggs hatch. You'll want to thoroughly clean all things that came in contact with your horse like brushes and blankets as well so you don't reinfect him.

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Yep, lice, and yes they spread to other horses and to YOU. Get em NOW!
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post #6 of 12 Old 05-23-2014, 01:14 PM
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I'm fairly certain that lice are host-specific. Cattle lice won't infest horse lice, and horse lice won't infest humans. They may still bite you when you're grooming the horse, but there's no need to wear a hazmat suit

Lice on horses is indicative of a weak immune system. It could be as simple as a nutritional imbalance (especially vitamin A, which is frequently deficient in horses without access to fresh grass) or could be something that needs more diagnostic testing.

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post #7 of 12 Old 05-23-2014, 06:00 PM
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Yeah you can't get lice from a horse. IME it is almost always associated with nutritional issues. You can't hardly GIVE a very healthy horse who is out on good green grass lice. I used to work at a large public riding stables and from time to time, a horse would get them. It was almost always an unthrifty looking horse we had just got from auction or a new horse we hadnt had long. Always during hay season when the hay was old and had zero vitamin A aka deep winter. They were all brushed with the same brushes and shared saddle pads daily. They never once transferred to the healthy horses wed had awhile. Only the ones who had not been feed a good nutritious ration with adequate Vit A. https://s3.amazonaws.com/assets.prod...e%204-6-12.pdf

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post #8 of 12 Old 05-24-2014, 10:36 AM Thread Starter
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Thank you so much!

I've arranged for my friend to come tomorrow to help me shampoo them. I have two horses and a mini who are all together.

The nutrients thing makes sense! The conditions here are awful because of the horrible and long winter and wet spring. I'm still waiting to open up my pasture because the grass is short and the ground is wet. All we have left is low-quality grassy hay. I keep thinking that I'll get them on the real grass soon and then it rains:(

Okay...lesson learned if we ever have seasons like this again. Provide vitamins!
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post #9 of 12 Old 05-24-2014, 07:03 PM
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There are two types of lice:

1. Horse lice suck blood from their host and only like horses.

2. Poultry lice chew their host and seem to also like horses.

Chicken lice will latch onto other species.

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Lice are normally species-specific. However, the chewing lice of poultry can also affect horses when housed together. The horses should be removed from the building. If the poultry is removed, the lice will continue to harass the horses unless a good cleanup and premise insecticide treatment is used.
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I know that is a Canadian link but when talking lice, the game is the same regardless of where we live from the border:)

Meaning horses do not have to be in poor condition if they live in close proximity to chickens or other fowl that get chicken lice.

If the OP can stand to, I might take a scraping to the vet to determine which type of lice the horse has as that will help in determining if the horse needs a diet change or new neighbors:)

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post #10 of 12 Old 05-24-2014, 08:10 PM
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Sounds VERY much like lice.

The pony I just got is infested with these critters, I used a pour-on treatment which is a biological control, it works more slowly than an insecticide, but will be effective for 3 months without the need to re-apply.

Not sure if it is available where you are.

The active ingredient is Triflumuron which interferes with the formation of chitin in the lices shell, therefore killing it when it moults. (They usually moult every 10 days, until maturity at 30 days or s, and once in the egg before they hatch)
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