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        06-03-2013, 12:36 PM
      #11
    Trained
    OP I think you came to the wrong forum if you were expecting people to fall all over themselves to sign a petition to stop horse slaughter. Many of the posters here are pro-slaugther and have good reasons to be. So am I. I haven't seen one good idea for the anti-slaughter group on what to do in regards to all the horses that would normally go to slaughter... Come up with a great idea for that and you'll get people behind you. Bleating that slaughter is evil with no plans or suggestions on something to take it's place to handle the horses isn't a good way to drum up support.
         
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        06-03-2013, 12:49 PM
      #12
    Trained
    Yes, to all the responses above. OP, precisely because we are all horse lovers here is precisely why we are pro-slaughter.
         
        06-03-2013, 01:59 PM
      #13
    Showing
    OP, how much research have you actually done on the matter? There are many here (Cherie comes to mind) that have thoroughly investigated the industry and have realized that it's a really bad idea to try and put an end to it. There's no longer any equine processing in the U.S. The anti-slaughter groups are happy, but the pro-slaughter people are disgusted. Now these animals have to be transported thousands of miles across the borders to get to Canada or Mexico to be slaughtered. THAT is cruel. When slaughter was still an industry here, horses were driven only a few hours to the plants, where they were humanely slaughtered.

    There are just too many horses to try and save them all. The racing industry and many private breeders continue to turn out horses at an alarming rate, and there are just too many to rehome. Would you rather they starved in the back of a dirt lot somewhere, or were shipped an hour to a plant to be humanely put out of their misery?

    Slaughter establishes a base price on horses--a price per pound. Usable and promising horses will be above this price, and any horse with a beating heart will be worth that certain price per pound. Without this bottom tier, many horses would be absolutely worthless.
         
        06-03-2013, 02:24 PM
      #14
    Banned
    Won't sign a petition to end horse slaughter that market needs to be there in my book they need to reopen the ones in US.
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        06-03-2013, 02:32 PM
      #15
    Foal
    I respect all of your opinions, so please respect mine - I didn't mean to start any sort of controversy, so I apologize if it appears that way! This is solely for those who are interested; I didn't come searching for a debate. C:
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        06-03-2013, 02:47 PM
      #16
    Green Broke
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    Originally Posted by equiniphile    
    OP, how much research have you actually done on the matter? There are many here (Cherie comes to mind) that have thoroughly investigated the industry and have realized that it's a really bad idea to try and put an end to it. There's no longer any equine processing in the U.S. The anti-slaughter groups are happy, but the pro-slaughter people are disgusted. Now these animals have to be transported thousands of miles across the borders to get to Canada or Mexico to be slaughtered. THAT is cruel. When slaughter was still an industry here, horses were driven only a few hours to the plants, where they were humanely slaughtered.

    There are just too many horses to try and save them all. The racing industry and many private breeders continue to turn out horses at an alarming rate, and there are just too many to rehome. Would you rather they starved in the back of a dirt lot somewhere, or were shipped an hour to a plant to be humanely put out of their misery?

    Slaughter establishes a base price on horses--a price per pound. Usable and promising horses will be above this price, and any horse with a beating heart will be worth that certain price per pound. Without this bottom tier, many horses would be absolutely worthless.
    "When slaughter was still an industry here, horses were driven only a few hours to the plants, where they were humanely slaughtered."
    That is only true if one started a few hours from the slaughter houses, which most did not.
    I suppose our definitions of humane must be different.

    OP, debating this topic here is like beating a dead horse- pun intended.
         
        06-03-2013, 02:51 PM
      #17
    Green Broke
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    Originally Posted by SeemsLegit    
    I respect all of your opinions, so please respect mine - I didn't mean to start any sort of controversy, so I apologize if it appears that way! This is solely for those who are interested; I didn't come searching for a debate. C:
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    We should all support that which we believe in.
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        06-03-2013, 06:15 PM
      #18
    Weanling
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by SeemsLegit    
    I respect all of your opinions, so please respect mine - I didn't mean to start any sort of controversy, so I apologize if it appears that way! This is solely for those who are interested; I didn't come searching for a debate. C:
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    You posted your opinion about a very hot topic on an open horse forum, full of people who love to discuss hot topics. You had to know there was going to be a lot of discussion!

    Back to the topic at hand. So, you don't CARE that banning horse slaughter in Canada would cause 1000's more horses to be a flood on the market? And therefore 1000's more will have to die long painful deaths from neglect, abuse and starvation? There's no way anyone can deny it will absolutely happen, because it has been happening regularly here in the US since we shut down our horse slaughter. But you "love horses"?

    /shrug

    I just don't get it.
         
        06-03-2013, 06:33 PM
      #19
    Weanling
    Sadly slaughter is a necessary evil. You are actually lucky that the horses in your area don't have to be crammed on a train and shipped 3-4 days without food or water to a slaughter house. That's how it's going in the U.S. Right now. It's sad that we need slaughter plants but it's a way of life. I, along with what others have said, hope for strict regulations and better treatment for slaughter horses. Closing the plants here rather than regulating them has actually caused a huge problem with horses being dumped and starved.

    I understand where OP is coming from because I used to feel the exact same way. When I went to my first auction and when the old and infirm horses came in at the end I asked hubby who would buy them. I was horrified when he told me about kill buyers. But after research it I have since decided that there are worse fates for a horse. BUT I am for respectful and humane treatment and slaughtering regulations.
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        06-04-2013, 02:28 AM
      #20
    Foal
    As stated once previously, this was not intended to fire everyone up. It is merely here for those who may be interested in taking a look. For those who aren't, please don't grow confrontational - again, that's not why I posted this. I'm not interested in defending myself or fighting against anybody else to get a point across.

    I'm young, and perhaps I'm naive and unaware of the consequences of abolishing the practice. What I do know is that a massive amount of magnificent animals are being abused and killed because there is not a place for them. This doesn't happen to us, so why are they deserving? Something needs to change. Whether it is this or some sort of way to control breeding, I believe it needs to happen eventually.

    Whatever your belief or cause, I'd love it if this thread could be drawn to a close or kept peaceful from this point onward. I didn't mean to lure out any tempers. C:
         

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