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        06-04-2013, 07:19 PM
      #31
    Trained
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Golden Horse    
    As a human I am a killer of lots of little living creatures, I let someone else kill far more on my behalf to feed my meat craving, it seems a little (jeez I forget the word) ?????? For me to sit here and say don't kill horses because they are special.
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    Hypocritical was the word I couldn't find, another one for the confessions thread, it sometimes takes me a while to remember the word I was looking for
         
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        06-04-2013, 07:46 PM
      #32
    Weanling
    Mama26kids: We waste money on baby formula? Maybe you should think before you speak. There are thousands of mothers out there without the ability to breast feed their child including those who adopt! Let's keep this thread on track. Horse slaughter, not your personal feelings about how people should feed their kids.

    Also, let's call it what it is, it's not being put to "sleep". It's being put to death. And if no horses are slaughtered what do you suggest zoo animals are fed? And before you complain about zoos remember that they are instrumental in keeping several species from becoming extinct. I fail to see how euthanizing a horse and letting it rot is better than it being slaughtered and used.

    Remember too, that there are as many good people in the racing industry as bad. Those horses love to run. They are not beat and pushed into it. If they were they wouldn't be worth crap on the track. That's like saying that a Border Collie should not be allowed to herd sheep because it is for human benefit.
         
        06-04-2013, 10:40 PM
      #33
    Foal
    Quote:
    I take it you're a vegan, then?
    vegetarian, not vegan....and I actually try not to kill anything. Bugs included. I transport spiders outdoors and open windows and shew flies out. No one else has to, that's what I choose to do.

    And I understand that euthanizing can be costly and transport of horse bodies too, so maybe that's a place to start. Lowering those costs or funding them in some way.

    Obviously there are alot of things that could be changed.

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    We waste money on baby formula?
    Parents can certainly pay for their own baby formula. That shouldn't come from my tax dollar. I breastfed all 6 of my kids and my grandkids are breastfed, and I really hope a mom who is adopting a baby has the money to purchase formula. Seriously. I did think before I spoke. WIC has a 7 trillion dollar budget. I think that would help some horses/euthasias/body transports.

    And I understand millions of cats and dogs are killed every year in shelters, (I wasn't talking about strays, I was talking about peoples pets ) cats and dogs aren't sent to slaughter after being a friend and companion to humans. If you want to eat horse meat, raise a horse from a baby to be meat. Don't love it and pet it and make it work, or ride or race then kill it when you're done. People don't play with cows and then eat them.

    Oh, and no, I don't like zoos and it's unfortunate that they are the only place keeping some endangered species alive...keep in mind that it was most likely humans that caused what ever is going extinct to be going extinct in the first place. Sad irony.

    And I don't really agree that horses like running on race tracks. Why do they all have ulcers if they are so happy. Of course horses like to run and have fun, but run for humans to make money. I doubt they would choose it, but they don't get a choice. Difference in opinion.
         
        06-04-2013, 11:09 PM
      #34
    Weanling
    We play with cows then eat them. The beef we raise is tame (we pet them and hand feed them) and they have names. I have a freezer full of "Matilda" meat right now. Just saying.

    Oh and I suggest you not say what adoptive parents should and should not be able to do unless you've ridden that pony yourself. And clearly saving horses is more important than feeding babies. Stupid WIC.

    A world without slaughter plants would be a perfect world. However, as you have pointed out, it is not a perfect world. Some things, no matter how ugly, are needed. The best thing we can do (IMO obviously) is spend our energy on something obtainable like regulating slaughter. Getting rid of it all together simply won't happen. So why not work on something that will?

    The rest of it we'll leave to a matter of differing opinion.
         
        06-04-2013, 11:12 PM
      #35
    Banned
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Mama26kids    
    vegetarian, not vegan....and I actually try not to kill anything. Bugs included. I transport spiders outdoors and open windows and shew flies out. No one else has to, that's what I choose to do.

    And I understand that euthanizing can be costly and transport of horse bodies too, so maybe that's a place to start. Lowering those costs or funding them in some way.

    Obviously there are alot of things that could be changed.



    Parents can certainly pay for their own baby formula. That shouldn't come from my tax dollar. I breastfed all 6 of my kids and my grandkids are breastfed, and I really hope a mom who is adopting a baby has the money to purchase formula. Seriously. I did think before I spoke. WIC has a 7 trillion dollar budget. I think that would help some horses/euthasias/body transports.

    We paid for our own formula because I stopped breast feeding after attempting and trying for three weeks to feed a baby who didn't latch properly and my nipples were bleeding and the pain was excruciating everytime the baby latched......is that a good enough reason for you? Mothers have the right to choose whether or not they breast feed and I will be the last on this earth to judge a mother for not breast feeding.....just because it worked fr you, doesn't mean it SHOULD and COULD work for everyone else. New mothers have enough to deal with, let alone having the boob brigade ramming breast milk down their throats.

    And I understand millions of cats and dogs are killed every year in shelters, (I wasn't talking about strays, I was talking about peoples pets ) cats and dogs aren't sent to slaughter after being a friend and companion to humans. If you want to eat horse meat, raise a horse from a baby to be meat. Don't love it and pet it and make it work, or ride or race then kill it when you're done. People don't play with cows and then eat them.

    Yes, people play with cows then eat them. Daisy was quite tasty.
    A horse has no idea that its going to be feed to the hounds at the Hunt club, once it's dead...it's dead. Why waste the meat?



    Oh, and no, I don't like zoos and it's unfortunate that they are the only place keeping some endangered species alive...keep in mind that it was most likely humans that caused what ever is going extinct to be going extinct in the first place. Sad irony.

    ok let's release all the animals back into their natural habitat and see where they all are in 5 - 10 years time.......zoos keep animals PROTECTED from poachers, loss of habitat and natural predators.......without the zoos we would have lost many rare species by now.


    And I don't really agree that horses like running on race tracks. Why do they all have ulcers if they are so happy. Of course horses like to run and have fun, but run for humans to make money. I doubt they would choose it, but they don't get a choice. Difference in opinion.
    ^^^^^this last statement shows your lack of knowledge....indeed.
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        06-05-2013, 03:01 AM
      #36
    Started
    How do you suggest lowering the price of euthanasia and burying of bodies? Tax dollars? So why should tax dollars go towards something like THAT instead of formula for babies?
    Do you own horses Mama26Kids? Do you ride horses? I'm sure they wouldn't choose to be owned / ridden... so maybe you should think about releasing them into the wild...
         
        06-05-2013, 06:50 AM
      #37
    Trained
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Mama26kids    
    vegetarian, not vegan....and I actually try not to kill anything. Bugs included. I transport spiders outdoors and open windows and shew flies out. No one else has to, that's what I choose to do.

    And I understand that euthanizing can be costly and transport of horse bodies too, so maybe that's a place to start. Lowering those costs or funding them in some way.

    Obviously there are alot of things that could be changed.



    Parents can certainly pay for their own baby formula. That shouldn't come from my tax dollar. I breastfed all 6 of my kids and my grandkids are breastfed, and I really hope a mom who is adopting a baby has the money to purchase formula. Seriously. I did think before I spoke. WIC has a 7 trillion dollar budget. I think that would help some horses/euthasias/body transports.

    And I understand millions of cats and dogs are killed every year in shelters, (I wasn't talking about strays, I was talking about peoples pets ) cats and dogs aren't sent to slaughter after being a friend and companion to humans. If you want to eat horse meat, raise a horse from a baby to be meat. Don't love it and pet it and make it work, or ride or race then kill it when you're done. People don't play with cows and then eat them.

    Oh, and no, I don't like zoos and it's unfortunate that they are the only place keeping some endangered species alive...keep in mind that it was most likely humans that caused what ever is going extinct to be going extinct in the first place. Sad irony.

    And I don't really agree that horses like running on race tracks. Why do they all have ulcers if they are so happy. Of course horses like to run and have fun, but run for humans to make money. I doubt they would choose it, but they don't get a choice. Difference in opinion.
    THere are so many other public assistance programs that could be cut...cutting food for babies probably is not the best choice. Plus, people who don'r have horses or even like them (yes, they exist) may not appreciate their tax $$ going toward that any more than you like it going toward WIC, which, like it or not, is necessary, since people DO have kids who cannot necessarily afford to buy formula, etc.....and NOT everyone can breastfeed, for many reasons. Moms get ill, need meds, etc......you are ignorant to think otherwise. Yes, it is ideal, but not everyone can.

    I have a feeling PETA is one of your chosen charities.......
         
        06-13-2013, 03:30 AM
      #38
    c99
    Foal
    The Equine Right To A Quality Life movement (equineright.com) started an important petition for Canadians who are members of provincial horse councils/federations/Equine Canada.

    More information and Petition Link:
    https://www.change.org/en-CA/petitio...rity-of-choice

    You can help horse rescues and horses too! Pls post to Facebook, friends & share!
         
        06-13-2013, 03:49 AM
      #39
    Super Moderator
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by SeemsLegit    
    I respect all of your opinions, so please respect mine - I didn't mean to start any sort of controversy, so I apologize if it appears that way! This is solely for those who are interested; I didn't come searching for a debate. C:
    Posted via Mobile Device

    Forums are all about debate.

    There are far worse things that can happen to a horse than dying, most horse lovers understand this.
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