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        12-21-2011, 11:47 AM
      #21
    Weanling
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Alwaysbehind    
    Unless you have a bunch of easy keepers that are chow hounds, then this does not apply. No matter how much people want to tell you it does.



    It used to drive me crazy when kids feed and they can not accommodate the difference in flake sizes. They have been told Dobbin gets 3 flakes. When the bale is giving flakes that are only an inch thick Dobbin is not getting enough hay. Dobbin really likes it when the flakes come off and are 9" thick and the feeder girl still gives him 3 flakes.


    Glad you are getting your scale out to the barn. There really is no way to know if you are giving enough hay if you are not weighing it.
    yeah I think that would get me pretty close to being able to judge the weight of the bucket and I can go from there. I always thought he could be a little fatter because looking at him from different angles he looks different as to where others horses look about the same. So at least now I have a good gauge to go by as far as how much per weight, ect.
         
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        12-21-2011, 12:31 PM
      #22
    mls
    Trained
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Joe4d    
    put hay out, when it is gone add more. It isnt rocket science. People tend to way over think this. If you put out hay in the AM and it is all gone by the afternoon you didnt put enough out.
    Seriously?

    Sorry - it takes a bit more thought process than that.

    You feed per need of horse. If you are feeding flaked hay, you DO want them to clean it up.

    We feed hay 3x per day to the horses not on the round bales. They clean up each feeding prior to the next - with no waste. The horses are in competition and in great shape.
         
        12-21-2011, 12:36 PM
      #23
    Green Broke
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by mls    
    Seriously?

    Sorry - it takes a bit more thought process than that.

    You feed per need of horse. If you are feeding flaked hay, you DO want them to clean it up.

    We feed hay 3x per day to the horses not on the round bales. They clean up each feeding prior to the next - with no waste. The horses are in competition and in great shape.
    when it is cold I tend to follow Joe's system as I want to keep them nice and warm but in the summer months I give them a bit less.
         
        12-21-2011, 12:44 PM
      #24
    mls
    Trained
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by churumbeque    
    when it is cold I tend to follow Joe's system as I want to keep them nice and warm but in the summer months I give them a bit less.
    Which would follow the line of reasoning - feed per need of horse . . . .
         
        12-21-2011, 02:39 PM
      #25
    Weanling
    Once again.....as repeated prior you must feed according to individual need and that should not be taken lightly. If you don't know what a flake of hay weighs and you suspect it is not 5 pounds I suggest you weigh it to be sure. More is better than less as they will simply leave some behind and you will know they don't need quite as much at the next feeding. Not rocket science :)
    Round bales outside are free choice and as others have said so no need to worry about amounts to feed. During the winter months round bales are a great idea because they do help warm the horse.
    Be careful with grain unless you intimately know that horses needs and nutritional requirements. Get the advice of your vet if you are questioning how much grain to feed or what grain to feed.
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        12-21-2011, 03:31 PM
      #26
    Green Broke
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Alwaysbehind    
    Unless you have a bunch of easy keepers that are chow hounds, then this does not apply. No matter how much people want to tell you it does.
    Doesn't work for easy keepers either. There's a pony where I board who wouldn't fit through his stall door if he was allowed to eat all the hay he wanted. This pony would literally do nothing but stuff his face 24x7.He now gets turned out with the "big guys" so he gets a little exercise as they chase him from one hay pile to the next (breakfast and dinner are in stalls.... it's just mid-day hay). He still gets more hay than he needs, I just had to let the straps on his blanket out again.

    Now if you're trying to put weight on a horse, unlimited grass hay in addition to meals is a good idea. My horse lost a massive amount of weight and to put it back on, he got breakfast and dinner in his stall (alfalfa, grain, beet pulp and supplements) and all the grass hay he wanted in turnout. Had to feed his meals in his stall or he'd have just eaten the grass hay and kept on losing.
         
        12-21-2011, 06:41 PM
      #27
    Weanling
    I weighed up the hay today and got 10 lbs in that bucket for the evening feeding. He had anywhere from 7-10 lbs for the morning one. I didnt weight it last nite after getting it ready for this morning. I move him in the morning before I go to work so at nites I get the feed ready so I can just transport it to the other pasture.

    Right now the front pasture doesnt really have any grass in it, just some from him eating it down pretty good for the few months he has been it in during the day. That 10 lbs seems like an awful lot of hay lol for one feeding and he gets fed twice a day. It completely filled the 2 1/2 X 4 ft trough. The trough is 8 inches deep by the way. So if the horse grazes at least 8 hrs a day does he need that much hay still?
         
        12-21-2011, 07:46 PM
      #28
    Green Broke
    I keep a good quality mixed grass round bale out for our three horses all the time, and don't add another until it's almost all gone. It's free choice and they can eat all they want.

    We also feed a one quart 50/50 mix of strategy and crimped oats twice a day.

    I've wrote down each and every time I put a roll out, and to my surprise, I fed more round bales in August when it was dry and grass wasn't growing.

    Spring time is when the hay lasted the longest.

    I don't know if there is a correct answer, as how much a horse eats depends on several things, how much work they do being an important aspect. How much they're stalled etc.

    I'm of the opinion that a pleasure horse that's only ridden on the weekends needs very little grain or feed.

    We keep square bales too, and feed those when we stall the horses after riding. Our horses are stalled during the day in the summer, and at night during the winter.

    By the way, I've put out 16 rolls this calender year.

    I don't think you can feed to much mixed grass hay, only to little.
         
        12-21-2011, 10:21 PM
      #29
    Weanling
    For that 10 lbs of hay I put out about 530 this evening, he still has some in the trough and has stopped eating and is laying down. He actually stopped one time earlier too and went in the stall for about 10 minutes then came back out to eat. I'm thinking since he is getting ridden only once a week now and not getting worked, 6-7 lbs might be sufficient twice a day as well as about 2 qts of grain per day. I will see though how this works out
         
        12-22-2011, 08:55 AM
      #30
    Green Broke
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by mls    
    Seriously?

    Sorry - it takes a bit more thought process than that.

    You feed per need of horse. If you are feeding flaked hay, you DO want them to clean it up.

    We feed hay 3x per day to the horses not on the round bales. They clean up each feeding prior to the next - with no waste. The horses are in competition and in great shape.
    Serious as can be. That is all it takes. Horses should have access to hay/grass all the time. That's what is best for them. People tend to feed horses food that is too rich. They also get a field, fertilize, weed kill, seed, manicure, and then keep the horses off because they get overweight or worry about founder.
    Horses will only over eat on hay at the beginning, once they figure out it is there all the time they will slack off.
    People also get caught up in buying super rich perfect hay, and again want to ration it due to weight issues.
    Rationing high calorie rich food isnt right. Giving the horse 24/7 access to low quality food is. Grain/feeds are used to make up shortcomings in minerals and vitamins and add some calories to make up for unnatural work cycles.
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