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        03-06-2013, 03:47 PM
      #11
    Weanling
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    Originally Posted by Joe4d    
    yes take the money you were going to pay chiropractor, put it in the fire place on a cold night and light it on fire, at least that way you'll get some actual benefit.
    These people are snake oil salesmen plain and simple. Any benefit is purely the result of a projected plecobo effect. Not even the American Chiro association , itself not very well respected, recognizes horse chiro.
    You've mentioned your horse doesnt even have a problem. I bet your chiro finds all kinds of issues, that of course he/she and her spirit guide can correct for you with ongoing treatment.
    Sounds like your dad is a smart man, maybe you ought to listen to him.
    Maybe you've had some bad experiences with them? I take offense to you saying they are all "snake oil salesman"... to each his own on what they want to provide for their animals, but mine have benefited greatly from checkups here and there since they are in a therapeutic riding program and work with a lot of unbalanced riders. My vet, who does the adjustments and is certified to perform them, is FAR from trying to "sell" his services, people bang on his door to get him to come to their barn. He tells you if they do or don't need one, and from my experience has always had the animals best interest in mind. So, please don't group them all in one category :)
    He doesn't need to tell people what it does, the horse's expression tells it all. Are there people out there who read a book and proclaim themselves an expert? Yes. I'm not defending them though. Chiropractic work is a part of my heath program for my animals, and I also work with him on ground work exercises as well as a training program to make sure it compliments his work.Out of curiosity, have you had one work on any of your horses before? It's not a magical fix, as some people believe, and won't fix problems if the rider isn't willing to also change some things!
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        03-06-2013, 03:50 PM
      #12
    Weanling
    Just to add onto the other tips, mine also says no trailering, since that can rattle stuff back out of whack :)
         
        03-06-2013, 03:51 PM
      #13
    Weanling
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    Originally Posted by tbcrazy    
    Great tips, mine also says no trailering, since that can rattle stuff back out of whack :)
    Heh, when I first bought my gelding and had him adjusted for the first time, he was so out-of-whack that we did no circles for a week and no cantering for 2-3 weeks!

    Good point about the trailering. :)
         
        03-06-2013, 03:53 PM
      #14
    Weanling
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    Originally Posted by existentialpony    
    Heh, when I first bought my gelding and had him adjusted for the first time, he was so out-of-whack that we did no circles for a week and no cantering for 2-3 weeks!

    Good point about the trailering. :)
    EP have you ever done structural integration/massage work after a chiropractic adjustment? I've found that if one of those are done a few days after being adjusted then the chiropractic stuff "sticks" a lot better
         
        03-06-2013, 03:57 PM
      #15
    Weanling
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    Originally Posted by tbcrazy    
    EP have you ever done structural integration/massage work after a chiropractic adjustment? I've found that if one of those are done a few days after being adjusted then the chiropractic stuff "sticks" a lot better
    My chiro doesn't do any kind of massage, but she does do myofascial release prior to her adjustments and man, Jax turns into mellow jello on four legs! Haha. I have heard about how beneficial massage can be after an adjustment, but my finances limit me to one or the other.

    In my area there are occasional seminars on equine massage so I've kept an eye out just in case I ever have the opportunity to learn myself.
         
        03-06-2013, 04:01 PM
      #16
    Weanling
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    Originally Posted by existentialpony    
    My chiro doesn't do any kind of massage, but she does do myofascial release prior to her adjustments and man, Jax turns into mellow jello on four legs! Haha. I have heard about how beneficial massage can be after an adjustment, but my finances limit me to one or the other.

    In my area there are occasional seminars on equine massage so I've kept an eye out just in case I ever have the opportunity to learn myself.
    Your vet knows her stuff- myofascial release is the same as structual integration :) You've hit the jackpot with her- very jealous! I've not heard of a chiropractor doing both. As long as the muscle fascia is worked a little bit, that has a huge impact. Mine are separate unfortunately, $80 for an adjustment and $80 for a structural integration sesssion- but it's a small price to pay 2 times a year to have a sound, healthy, HAPPY horse!
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        03-06-2013, 04:02 PM
      #17
    Green Broke
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Joe4d    
    yes take the money you were going to pay chiropractor, put it in the fire place on a cold night and light it on fire, at least that way you'll get some actual benefit.
    These people are snake oil salesmen plain and simple. Any benefit is purely the result of a projected plecobo effect. Not even the American Chiro association , itself not very well respected, recognizes horse chiro.
    You've mentioned your horse doesnt even have a problem. I bet your chiro finds all kinds of issues, that of course he/she and her spirit guide can correct for you with ongoing treatment.
    Sounds like your dad is a smart man, maybe you ought to listen to him.
    That's quite the "debbie downer" reply (to put it nicely), but to each his own.

    Let me just say this to the part of your response that I have bolded: So just because you "don't suspect a problem", you should never go to the doctor? Tell that to the thousands of people who die every year due to a clot from high cholesterol or high blood pressure that is built up. But they "didn't have a problem" and didn't notice any symptoms, so why go to the doctor for preventative care and have your vitals checked?

    Or the thousands of people who have glaucoma but "don't have a problem" so they never see the eye doctor. Until they've already permanently lost most of their peripheral vision is when they finally notice an issue, which by then it is much too late, the damage is already done. When it could have been prevented with early preventative care from an eye doctor.

    PREVENTATIVE CARE. That's the name of the game.

    Or maybe you think all doctors are snake oil salesmen. Tell that to a personal friend of mine who is currently in the hospital (and not doing well) at the young age of 62 because he had a stroke, because over 95% of his internal carotid artery was blocked. But guess what? He didn't suspect a problem, so he didn't go in.

    Farriers are snake oil salesmen. For crying out loud, they make you come back every 4 to 6 weeks to do the exact same thing again they just did last time. ....... see?

    If was able to give my horses proper preventative care years ago, I wouldn't have had to put down my Beau last year at the young age of 14 due to severe arthritis. We would have caught it sooner and treated accordingly. And guess what? He didn't get preventative care because my dad didn't think he needed it. Horses were a hobby. They didn't get special care unless they were practically dying. I love my parents and am so very thankful I had them to help me financially while I was in school, but part of me is very sad that I couldn't help my horse sooner before it was too late. My dad's a penny pincher and I do not blame him for that one bit, as he's been able to keep afloat while farming and ranching.

    From that saddening experience, my horses will NEVER go without proper preventative care.

    They are going to see the lameness expert every year (minimum) for a lameness evaluation. Yes, and that's even if they aren't lame. There's things she can pick up in an evaluation I would have no idea about.

    They are going to see the dentist at least every year. Again, this is something my horses NEVER had because my dad thought it was an extra.

    And they ARE going to have regular chiropractic checkups. It's another medical tool of preventative care that is going to help keep them healthy for long aged years.


    That's totally fine if you don't believe in chiropractors. But I've never seen someone so disrespectfully dis them.
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        03-06-2013, 07:17 PM
      #18
    Super Moderator
    ^^^^great post and well said.

    My husband is as skinny as he was when he graduated H.S.

    Has never smoked or done drugs, has always eaten a lot healthier than me and would arm wrestle a rabbit over the last head of lettuce

    He has high blood pressure and has been on meds for that but his Hypertensive Type A self felt just fine.

    Imagine our great astonishment when he had a major heart attack, clear up on the ridge while spraying weed killer, April 1, 2012.

    The doctors said they couldn't believe he drove himself and that equipment down off the ridge to the house because our local hospital life-flighted him to Vanderbilt in Nashville, TN.

    Imagine our even bigger jaw-drop when the heart doctor put a stent in the lower right portion of Mr. WTW's heart becaaaasssssss he had 85% blockage!

    But he felt fine and had no apparent reason to see a doctor, so he didn't and he almost wasn't here to help me bushhog, hump hay and do whatever else needs done today.

    Great response. Joe4d can offer some great input but sometimes he goes waaaaay off the centerline with his comments and I have to wonder if those bitter comments are driven by something that happened that day?
         
        03-06-2013, 09:54 PM
      #19
    Foal
    Chiropractic combined with muscle release

    When the chiropractor finds places that are subluxated (not aligned) be sure to ask if tight muscles are contributing to the problem. Because no matter how good the adjustment is, if the muscles are tight, the skeleton will be pulled back to the misalignment. Hope that makes sense!
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        03-07-2013, 09:54 AM
      #20
    Green Broke
    Well it turned out to be a VERY chilly night last night. It wasn't supposed to get that cold!!! After Red was done, and the chiro was working on my boarding lady's horse, I was literally shivering standing there, even though we were in the barn.

    But good news for Red for the most part. He said he was a bit sore on his right poll, and slightly sore in his withers and his back but not bad.

    Especially when he worked on his back, Red was just in 7th heaven. He was loving it!

    My boarding lady's horse didn't have as good of a report, but he has had a history of back problems since they had a serious fall about 4 years ago during an endurance competition. He was obviously tender in several places in his back. It's amazing how you can see the difference instantly when the chiro makes adjustments, based on how the horse responds to pressure on his back.

    So for Red he doesn't really need a follow-up visit at all. If I notice any issues later on in the year, I will have him checked out. But if not, I'll probably just stick to once a year check-ups which my chiro said is just fine.

    I'm just happy for the fairly good report!
         

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