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        03-15-2012, 11:12 AM
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    Sam
    There's one part of your original question which did not get an answer.

    The risk to a handler or jockey from a horse exposed to 'drugs' whether ingested or inhaled is unpredictability. Remember a horse weighs as a minimum 500 kilos - often more. It was given by Mother Nature four tough hooves and one very large mouth An over stimulated or over excited horse has the power to maime or even kill a human.

    Go ahead with your research and build a data base of the every day dangers facing an inappropriate contact with noxious substances - and I suggest you start with 'oats' and other over heating foods.

    You might even include 'fear' - which is precisely the emotion which makes most horses unpredictable.
         
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        03-15-2012, 07:04 PM
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    Sam
    There's one part of your original question which did not get an answer.

    The risk to a handler or jockey from a horse exposed to 'drugs' whether ingested or inhaled is unpredictability. Remember a horse weighs as a minimum 500 kilos - often more. It was given by Mother Nature four tough hooves and one very large mouth An over stimulated or over excited horse has the power to maime or even kill a human.

    Go ahead with your research and build a data base of the every day dangers facing an inappropriate contact with noxious substances - and I suggest you start with 'oats' and other over heating foods.

    You might even include 'fear' - which is precisely the emotion which makes most horses unpredictable.
    Yep, thanks that was what I was thinking :) Bad enough having a naturally hyper and testing TB (like the ones I work with) without drugs involve
    Your asking for trouble, for you, the horse and the stablehand/jocky.

    It amazes me how much these TB I work with, talk to me like they have alot to tell yet don't know how.. their eyes ..they way the put their head in your arms..its just heartbreaking... I wish I could buy them all .

    Thanks for the tips and help Barry
         
        03-15-2012, 08:09 PM
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    Sam, You can't buy them all.

    When you meet with a horse which is trying to communicate with you, then try to listen. Try using your fingers to talk back. Get close so they can smell your breath and watch your face but take care they don't stand on your feet.

    You would be a genius to break the code, but to suspect that a horse might try to talk to a sympathetic human is not so ridiculous. After all my dog communicates his needs to me quite easily - he has trained me well to watch and guess what he wants.

    I talk to my horse and from time to time, I even believe she might be talking back but of course she doesn't have the vocal chords. She loves to stand by me, head by head when I am talking to another person - as though she is part of the conversation.

    Ask yourself how much of human communication is by look, by touch, by 'sensitivity' which includes the emotions of fear, empathy and sympathy.

    I don't speak Chinese but I have not tried to learn - it is too complicated.
    Some riders don't talk 'horse' because they have not tried to learn.

    Barry G

    PS My mare came off Danilon yesterday for the first time in several weeks She was probably pain free of the ulcers for the first time in probably years. I gave her a few treats and then she licked my hand for several minutes. I kidded myself she was saying thank you for recognising the pain in her and finding a remedy. Maybe she was ....???
         
        03-15-2012, 08:24 PM
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    Originally Posted by Barry Godden    
    Sam, You can't buy them all.

    When you meet with a horse which is trying to communicate with you, then try to listen. Try using your fingers to talk back. Get close so they can smell your breath and watch your face but take care they don't stand on your feet.

    You would be a genius to break the code, but to suspect that a horse might try to talk to a sympathetic human is not so ridiculous. After all my dog communicates his needs to me quite easily - he has trained me well to watch and guess what he wants.

    I talk to my horse and from time to time, I even believe she might be talking back but of course she doesn't have the vocal chords. She loves to stand by me, head by head when I am talking to another person - as though she is part of the conversation.

    Ask yourself how much of human communication is by look, by touch, by 'sensitivity' which includes the emotions of fear, empathy and sympathy.

    I don't speak Chinese but I have not tried to learn - it is too complicated.
    Some riders don't talk 'horse' because they have not tried to learn.

    Barry G

    PS My mare came off Danilon yesterday for the first time in several weeks She was probably pain free of the ulcers for the first time in probably years. I gave her a few treats and then she licked my hand for several minutes. I kidded myself she was saying thank you for recognising the pain in her and finding a remedy. Maybe she was ....???

    Haha if its anything I do do, its talk to horses... I spend {hours} with them, jsut talking and even humming (they love humming), I preffer to talk and listen to them than to give them treats, and they seem not to want treats but love and ears :) My goal is to eventually start up a equestrian connection clinic, explaining how the bond of a horsedoesnt start from getting on and winning, but it starts from the frist moment you meet them up until the last time you are with them, its all about heart and listeneing, if a horse is telling you they are in pain and you wont listen, of course your horse is going to think there is no point communicating with you - because the owner wont listen... Its all about the way you act, and you body language.. its ears, love and respect. I totally agree witheverything you said :)

    Im glad your mare is doing well, I think she WAS thanking you, and I bet she loves you alot :) You are an example of an owner who listens :)
         

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