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    11-21-2012, 07:50 PM
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Foal
face/head injury - advice please?

What can I use to reduce swelling and clean/treat a gash on my mares face? She got her head caught between
the fence and the gate (we're not sure how exactly she managed it just that she did) and has a really nasty gash
down the cent of her face. We don't think anything's broken, she wasn't too sensitive to the touch when I finally
got her relaxed enough to examine her. My Barn Owner said she wouldn't call the vet if Chewy was her horse
because she's not a show horse. The reason I remember her giving was that since she's not a show horse the scar
wouldn't matter. One of her horses (a show mare) got a similar injury a while back but above the eye and she called
the vet about that one (and it turns out she'd broken a bone with that one) but as of now the vet was considered
unnecessary by her. Advice?

We didn't get a good photo of it today because I was more concerned with calming Chewy down and cleaning the
wound (she was real head shy today which bothered me because she has never been head shy before) It looks
pretty deep to me - the bolt on the fence that she got caught on was about half an inch out so that's the deepest
I can guess the cut got but I think it's shallower than that. Anyway I have only one photo of the cut and it's from
the side (mostly) because Chewy kept turning her head away when we lifted the camera to her. It was also taken
after we put some stuff on it to keep the flies off.


     
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    11-21-2012, 07:54 PM
  #2
Trained
Well... I would have called a vet. It isn't all about the scar, it's about a deep wound that could get infected, a tetanus booster and possible antibiotics.

In the mean time, I would clean with saline. Avoid topical ointments, a horses face is warm and will "melt off" most things topical.

For the most part, I don't care if everyone and their grandma tells you that you don't need a vet. They are not a vet and it's YOUR horse. If you think you need a vet, or even not sure if you need one, CALL ONE.

Good luck.
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    11-22-2012, 12:01 AM
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Started
I would call a vet. Depending on how deep it is, it might have gone into the sinuses.............
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    11-22-2012, 01:03 AM
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Please tell me you cannot see into your horses sinus cavity? I'm looking at the picture thinking there's a good size hole there at the top of the wound. I'm hoping I am wrong and it's just the photo.

Chewy is your horse, so whatever the barn owner says is irrelevant. If you feel your horse needs veterinary care, call them!
     
    11-22-2012, 07:57 AM
  #5
Foal
No I couldn't see into the sinus cavity but I also couldn't get her to hold still long enough to really examine it yesterday. I'll be getting a much, much closer look at it this afternoon and calling a vet (if they're open) because I really would feel better talking to one and getting their advice on what to do. It is pretty deep at the top- she caught herself on a bolt on the fence and the bolt stuck out from the fence about an inch so that gives an idea of how deep it could be. I don't think I can get a vet out until tomorrow though - because of the holidays - and I really want to know what to do for her in the mean time because I feel awful with her just sitting around like that. Mom doesn't think we need to call the vet but she's never dealt with an injured horse before and the worse I've dealt with is shallow cuts and scrapes on the legs/chest.
     
    11-22-2012, 08:20 AM
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Green Broke
If you could not get your mare to hold still long enough to get a look at the wound, I can guarantee you did not clean it well enough. Get the vet out and don't take advice from your BO in the future. Just because the horse is not a show horse does not mean it doesn't deserve proper medical attention. The rationalization of some people amazes me.
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    11-22-2012, 08:41 AM
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Originally Posted by Samhwain    
no I couldn't see into the sinus cavity but I also couldn't get her to hold still long enough to really examine it yesterday. I'll be getting a much, much closer look at it this afternoon and calling a vet (if they're open) because I really would feel better talking to one and getting their advice on what to do. It is pretty deep at the top- she caught herself on a bolt on the fence and the bolt stuck out from the fence about an inch so that gives an idea of how deep it could be. I don't think I can get a vet out until tomorrow though - because of the holidays - and I really want to know what to do for her in the mean time because I feel awful with her just sitting around like that. Mom doesn't think we need to call the vet but she's never dealt with an injured horse before and the worse I've dealt with is shallow cuts and scrapes on the legs/chest.
Vets work on holidays & yesterday wasn't a holiday.
Give the bill to your BO.
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    11-22-2012, 08:44 AM
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Originally Posted by Samhwain    
no I couldn't see into the sinus cavity but I also couldn't get her to hold still long enough to really examine it yesterday. I'll be getting a much, much closer look at it this afternoon and calling a vet (if they're open) because I really would feel better talking to one and getting their advice on what to do. It is pretty deep at the top- she caught herself on a bolt on the fence and the bolt stuck out from the fence about an inch so that gives an idea of how deep it could be. I don't think I can get a vet out until tomorrow though - because of the holidays - and I really want to know what to do for her in the mean time because I feel awful with her just sitting around like that. Mom doesn't think we need to call the vet but she's never dealt with an injured horse before and the worse I've dealt with is shallow cuts and scrapes on the legs/chest.
So, you don't have an emergency vet? As you now see, horses very rarely have the courtesy to schedule their medical emergencies - so it is very important to have a working relationship with a vet who will provide emergency care 24/7/365.
     
    11-22-2012, 08:55 AM
  #9
Foal
Oh, no I didn't have the money to call them to the farm yesterday or I would have.
I had to wait for my dad to get home to discuss anything about the vets and by
The time he did they were all closed for the day. I have the money today to get it
Taken care of - and if the ones I can get a hold of will be able to she'll be cared
For right away.

@ taffy_clayton ;; I was too focused on calming Chewy down to snap at her
About her reasoning but that really bothered me. So what if she's a pleasure
Horse/companion? She's still a horse and she still depends on me to make sure
She's healthy/safe. It baffled me! And if nothing else her bloodlines should have
Been enough for this woman to consider her worth proper care - she seems to
Me to be 'in it for the money' but her dad (who helps her care for the horses)
Was helping me take care of Chewy and is absolutely furious this happened to
My poor girl. I couldn't see what I was doing while cleaning her - so I
Know for sure she needs to be rinsed down and properly cleaned today - and I
Plan to get it taken care of. After I get her cleaned up I'm getting proper photos
Of her and everything. I'm already looking to move her to a new boarding facility
Because IMO it's a bit ridiculous that the gate could catch her on a bolt and
That the BO didn't know when it happened when she should have been indoors
Over night and that this wasn't the first horse with similar injuries in that area
Of the turn outs.

Here's hoping the BO will actually foot the bill for this. I honestly don't care if
She does right now or not I'm more concerned with making sure Chewy's okay
Than anything. Going to pick up some stuff to clean her today before heading
Out there.



I had an emergency vet before I re-located her close to home and they went
Ahead and quoted me what a farm visit would cost to get to where she is now
And just driving out to us is over $100 and I don't have a trailer to move her
To them myself. I might be able to borrow one from a friend because the vet I
Used to use was really inexpensive with the treatment of horses (barring farm
Visits) and always handled my girl really well (and she loves their staff) so if I
Can't get any one closer to her to come out today I'll call them. I think they are
Closed on holidays though; I know for sure they're closed on sundays so I
Dunno about today. They might have emergency staff on hand. Crossing my
Fingers that they do.


The part about all this that bothers me the most is that Chewy's injury indicates
That she was jerking back trying to get free from the gate (the deepest part is
At the top of the gash and it gets narrower and shallower down her face) and
The skinned lines around it indicate this as well where as the BO claims that the
Injury occured in a head-on collision with the fence. Even I know how to tell
Which direction someone/something was moving when an injury occurred!



- - - my new question is this - What would be the best thing to use to clean
Her up while I wait on the vet?
I was thinking luke warm water with a small
Amount of salt (it's what I use) but I was worried that would burn her or cause
More damage. Any products I should pick up instead?
     
    11-22-2012, 09:37 AM
  #10
Green Broke
Please No salt. Diluted Batadine scrub is what I use. If nothing else diluted dawn dish soap. If she is still fussing about it, water will be better than nothing.

Good Luck, try and have a good Thanksgiving!
     

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