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    08-13-2013, 11:10 AM
Favorite light sedative

We are having our yearling gelded in a couple weeks and I was wondering what your favorite light sedative is? The guys that are doing it don't use anything but I don't want to put our yearling through that without anything. Also what is going by the moon or the sign to cut them mean?
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    08-13-2013, 11:11 AM
Wow, you're just using some yahoos and not a vet to geld? Not something I'd be willing to put my youngster through, as that is going to be extremely painful and traumatic. There are no 'light sedatives' that you can buy over the counter.
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    08-13-2013, 11:15 AM
Please take your horse to a qualified VET where he will be put to sleep to be gelded, like he should be.

I can't imagine the horror and pain the horse would go through, being gelded without being put under first.

Would you want to have a part of your body cut open without being put to sleep?
    08-13-2013, 11:21 AM
Check out The Farmers Almanac (and similar books) as for cutting by the moon and signs. It sounds like hooey to me but lots and lots of folks (older) swear by it. I, also, would not feel comfortable not having a vet held my horse, too many possible complications.
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    08-13-2013, 11:23 AM
We cut by the moon cycle too. My BO also weans by it.

I had my gelding done by a vet and they knocked him out. My colt is being done Friday by a vet, and they will knock him out. I wouldn't have it done any other way.
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    08-13-2013, 11:57 AM
Please tell me you aren't really going to allow that!!!
I can't think of any worse kind of torture than having surgery while awake. Too bad horses don't scream, then you'd have some kind of an idea of how much pain you will be causing him.
And before you say it.... NO, always doing it that way is no reason to continue.

As you obviously have a computer I assume you're not in some third world country where there are no other options.

Where would you even get the sedative? Who would be qualified to use it? What will you do if something goes wrong, throw hot coals on to cauterize the area?
Empathy is what is missing in your plan, find some of that.
    08-13-2013, 12:08 PM
I get an e-mail everyday from Farmer's Almanac that gives me the "Best Days" activities. From Aug 14-23 are shown as Best Days to Castrate Farm Animals. If I were going to take my colt to the vet, I'd schedule the surgery for one of those days. I don't know if it works but figure it can't hurt and might help, so why not use it.

I'm with the others, horses are not like goats, sheep, or cows, where you can just band 'em or snip 'em right off and move on to the next. Castrating a horse without anesthesia is just plain cruel, IMO.
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    08-13-2013, 02:06 PM
I am now sorry I posted this question. For everyone's information these aren't just some random guys of the street these guys cut more horses than the 2 vets in our 59 mile radius do. That is due to the fact that they have never list a horse where the vets in the last 5 years have lost over 5 horses. They put them under and they never wake up. Also I don't lack empathy that is the reason I was looking for a light tranquilizer which I know they do make because a friend of mine told me she uses Acepromezine paste but I have read a lot of bad about it when using for stallions and geldings. I'm sorry I don't want to risk loosing my yearling. Yes I would prefer him to be under because I know it is going to be a painful procedure but obviously...

Thank you redpony, Drifting and Dreamcatcher Arabians for actually helping me with the moon phase question.
    08-13-2013, 03:26 PM
But these "guys" are still not vets. Do they have all the proper medical equipment if they run into an emergency? (Excessive bleeding, abnormal testicles, etc)

I will easily haul over 59 miles to get to a GOOD vet (and I actually already do).

This is surgery your yearling is going to go through. A light sedative or tranquilizer is not going to cut it. Again, put yourself into your horse's position. Would you want some part of your body cut open while being awake and able to feel pain, but drowsy and not able to do anything about it? I doubt it.

Yes, anesthesia is horses can be tricky and can kill them if not done correctly. Acepromazine is certainly not a replacement for anesthesia for gelding. Not even close. It provides no analgesia and the tranquilizing effect of the drug can actually be overcome unexpectedly by the horse.
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    08-13-2013, 03:32 PM
Ace does NOTHING for pain. All it does is incapacitate the animal, so they still have to live through that hellish torture.

The closest vet to me is 60 miles, so your excuse doesn't cut it. If you truly care about this animal you'll have him humanely gelded, not just let some random guys who 'do it all the time' cut him open. What they're doing is illegal, as there are laws in place concerning cruelty to animals. No one other than a licensed professional is allowed to perform surgery, and that's exactly what these two yahoos are doing.

Yeah, I'm sorry you posted this thread, too. I didn't think people like you still existed in the 21st century, who thinks it's okay to have someone without a veterinary medical license and access to proper anesthesia geld a horse.
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