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post #1 of 47 Old 09-17-2010, 04:19 PM Thread Starter
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Feeding a Thougbred

So my new horse is a thoughbred and the lady I got her from said she might need some extra during the winter...So I am wondering what others who have weight issues with there thougbreds feed there horse to help pack on the weight. Right know we are waiting on hay. I went and picked up a bale to hold them over til next week when we get the hay. Hopes ribs have started showing. Right know I give her senior grain and a flake of alfalfa morning and night. She is not a horse that gets hot on alfalfa but I am hoping it well help until the hay arrives.
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How much senior feed is she getting? It's obviously not enough, if her ribs are starting to show.

My 6 y/o TB gets 4 quarts of feed twice a day, plus all the grass hay he'll eat. 4 quarts per feeding is merely a maintenance amount. When he was thin, I had him on 7 quarts at a feeding, again along with all the grass hay he'd eat.

If you have no hay for her pick up something equivalent, such as alfalfa pellets, cubes, or hay stretcher. One small square bale shouldn't last her a week, it should last 2 or 3 feedings at the most.
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There pasture has no grass and she started dropping weight because of that. I've been giving her a feed pan full of senior ( a gallon feed pan, not sure how many pounds that is)and when she finishes that I give her more. I am not under any circumstance going to feed her all the alfalfa she wants because she hasn't been on alfalfa and I want to build her up to getting alfalfa. So until I can go get a bale of hay she is getting two flakes of alfalfa a day and at night. We should be getting hay by monday at the latest. The other horse on the property looks good and it plenty plump its just my mare that has started dropping the weight. I have just never owned a horse that wasnt a easy keeper
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Instead of giving her a gallon pan of feed, you need to physically measure it out and determine just how much she's actually getting.

I cringed when you said you fill it up, let her eat it, and then fill it up again. That's impaction colic just waiting to happen, not to mention founder.

Overfeeding of grain products is counterproductive, because it causes more problems than any good it might do.

I never said to give her all the alfalfa she wants. What I said was that mine gets as much grass hay as he'll eat, and if you don't have the equivalent, to supplement her forage ration with alfalfa pellets, cubes, or hay stretcher.

I'm merely telling you what worked for my TB. Isn't that what you wanted? People who have TBs to give you advice on how to get weight on your horse?

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Ditto SpeedRacer.

I give my 17 y/o TB mare soaked alfalfa cubes in the winter. Without them she starts looking a bit thrifty. It's a pain, but I soak them as soon as I get home from work and by dinner time, they're ready to go.

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I was responding to your response letting you know what I was doing at the moment feed wise. Like I said I have always had easy keepers so i have been experimenting with what to give her. Your the one who said "How much senior feed is she getting? It's obviously not enough, if her ribs are starting to show" but then you said oh but don't overfeed. I am not overfeeding her just to clarify.I am not in front of all my feeding stuff to give you exact measurement. So I was giving you a idea of what size feed pan and same with the scoop if it says 3-4 quarts i don't know exactly how much in pounds that is. But you mentioned quarts as well so maybe that well clarify exactly how much. My response was not rude at all in anyway. But your response wasn't to nice. I was asking for help and suggestions and when I state something and then you start with the whole panties in a bunch, if you don't want help etc...that wasn't nice.

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To clarify after she eats her grain I give her more which is equevelent to a handful of grain...just to keep her busy while i groom or saddle up
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Hi,

Also agree with Speed Racer. If you can't get hay for another few days, you need to give her ample forage replacement of some kind, because 2 flakes of alfalfa(however big the flakes) is just not enough. I agree that it's not a good idea to feed too much of this, as it's a rich feed, but it would be better than nothing to give her a lot more if you have no alternative. It is very bad for a horse's system to allow them to go hungry for too long.

Regarding too much/not enough grain, SR was talking about too much in one go(I'm assuming, SR? I also don't know what a gallon looks like - we're metric over here!).

Horses have very small stomachs(about the size of ours) and very quick metabolisms. They are designed to eat small amounts near constantly and don't deal well with big &/or infrequent meals. On top of that, grain & other starchy/sugary feeds are not generally very good for horses anyway, and due to the quick metabolism, unless well processed first, tend to pass through the stomach into the hind gut without being digested. Even if processed, if large meals are given, it will pass through the stomach undigested, because the stomach automatically empties when it becomes more than 2/3 full(about, from memory). The big quantities passing through are what can cause impaction colic, but also the ensuing hind gut acidosis this causes can lead to ulcers, laminitis, colic and weightloss.

So... if you are going to feed grain, ensure you feed the ration over as many small meals per day as possible. Oats are about the safest grain. But I don't personally recommend feeding it, or other high starch/sugar feeds, for the above reasons and also because hi-carb rations also frequently cause insulin resistance(like type 2 diabetes), which is also a leading cause of laminitis and can cause weightloss, etc too.
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As stated. I am getting hay. Right know she is getting four flakes of alfalfa two in the morning and two at nite. I am hoping that well help til I get the hay. When I get the hay I am going to take her off alfalfa and see if she well gain on hay and still continue her grain and supplements. http://www.southernstates.com/catalo...n/10030623.jpg
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The pictures are what I use to measure the grain and to put the grain in. Speed Racer so that way you understand.
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ladybuysgirl, we know you're getting hay. But, until you do, the 2 flakes in the am and 2 flakes in the pm is NOT enough. It's best for horses to have forage in front of the 24 hours a day - that's healthiest and helps hardkeepers keep weight on because they're constantly taking in calories.

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