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        03-26-2013, 12:56 AM
      #21
    Trained
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    Originally Posted by Horseychick94    
    All the owner told me was to do belly lifts and lunge in side reins
    What are belly lifts?
         
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        03-26-2013, 12:59 AM
      #22
    Trained
    I'd guess a lack of riding, combined with his normal build. Below is a picture of Mia standing with Trooper (the Appy) after Mia had gone about 6 months without riding:



    If you looked at her now (sorry, no current pictures of her without a saddle), the hollow spot has filled in some...but she will never look like some of the other horses I know. Some horses just have more of a pocket back there.

    However, if you look at Trooper's withers, you'll see a white spot. There is another one just like it on the other side, and a scar on top of his withers from where he was loaned to a ranch in 2008 and ridden with a poor fitting saddle. They both have more of a pocket than most of the quarter horses I've known, or our mustang or the Arabian mare we sold a few years back.
         
        03-26-2013, 08:45 AM
      #23
    Started
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    Originally Posted by bsms    
    I'd guess a lack of riding, combined with his normal build. Below is a picture of Mia standing with Trooper (the Appy) after Mia had gone about 6 months without riding:



    If you looked at her now (sorry, no current pictures of her without a saddle), the hollow spot has filled in some...but she will never look like some of the other horses I know. Some horses just have more of a pocket back there.

    However, if you look at Trooper's withers, you'll see a white spot. There is another one just like it on the other side, and a scar on top of his withers from where he was loaned to a ranch in 2008 and ridden with a poor fitting saddle. They both have more of a pocket than most of the quarter horses I've known, or our mustang or the Arabian mare we sold a few years back.
    Thanks! Cute horses by the way. Poor Trooper. OUCH
         
        03-26-2013, 10:12 AM
      #24
    Yearling
    Don't give up on the belly lifts or work in a collected frame - it can do wonders for building up the back muscles as well. My horses can build decent abs and back just by trotting poles or hacking thru the woods over lots of fallen logs - try it for a couple of months and see if it makes a difference.
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        03-26-2013, 01:31 PM
      #25
    Weanling
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    Originally Posted by clippityclop    
    Worst case scenario but one to consider is muscle atrophy. It can be caused from an ill fitting saddle - either too narrow or in some cases, too wide - here is some info showing a similar horse and his is due to the saddle being too wide... (scroll to the pic of the sorrel at the bottom).

    The Trapezius muscle
    If the muscle is atrophied, it can be strengthened and can grow bigger. If it is damaged, then it may not. When we lay in bed for six days our muscles atrophy. When we get kicked by a horse, the muscle fibers can be torn and permanently damaged.

    That horse on the bottom photo is also too thin. His topline may look better with more groceries.

    The OP's horse also looks too thin. A saddle did not create the hollow between the two sides of the croup, the depression in the hindquarters or the elevation in the spot where horses get "hunter's bump." Those along with the elevated spine along the back show that the horse is underweight.

    I have had good success with getting proper muscling over the back and neck by riding up hills and down hills.

    Unless a horse is very old, their spine should be flat across. If it rises above the back, they are too thin (sometimes just a touch). If it makes a channel depressed in the back, the horse is too fat. A general rule of thumb.
         
        03-26-2013, 05:19 PM
      #26
    Green Broke
    Sorry, when I look at the photos I see a horse that needs more groceries and trot hill work. I see muscle in places I don't like and not in places I do. From what I'm reading you're working on that, and I'd bet by summer on a good fat to protein ratio feeding plan, proper work and good love you will see what you are after.
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        03-26-2013, 05:34 PM
      #27
    Showing
    Ill fitting saddle and not working correctly back to front.
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        03-26-2013, 07:35 PM
      #28
    Started
    He really isn't too thin. He just doesn't have a whole lot of muscle. He gets better and better each time I ride. I am uploading pics from my phone right now of him after today's ride
         
        03-26-2013, 08:21 PM
      #29
    Yearling
    He doesn't look super thin to me either - well, that one photo where he is looking up at you and you can see his back, that looks like a malnourished horse but since the side shots actually show him with his belly lower than the girth line and no ribs showing, I'd say his weight isn't bad at all.

    But that top picture really does show how the muscling is a little awry with him....so I can see what you mean - yes he is different than the avg horse and is lacking some muscle on his topline.

    Just keep exercising and see where it gets you - I agree with what someone else said - just keep going and see where you are by summer. Just use a good pad and don't worry about it if it doesn't change. There is nothing wrong with him. He's cute with his flaxen mane and tail.
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        03-26-2013, 08:29 PM
      #30
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    Originally Posted by clippityclop    
    He doesn't look super thin to me either - well, that one photo where he is looking up at you and you can see his back, that looks like a malnourished horse but since the side shots actually show him with his belly lower than the girth line and no ribs showing, I'd say his weight isn't bad at all.

    But that top picture really does show how the muscling is a little awry with him....so I can see what you mean - yes he is different than the avg horse and is lacking some muscle on his topline.

    Just keep exercising and see where it gets you - I agree with what someone else said - just keep going and see where you are by summer. Just use a good pad and don't worry about it if it doesn't change. There is nothing wrong with him. He's cute with his flaxen mane and tail.
    Thanks! None of my horses are thin fat wise really. Muscle wise, yes
         

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