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  • If electric fence touches tree will it ground it out
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    07-22-2011, 11:42 AM
  #1
Weanling
Final help with my Electric fence setup: Questions

Ok I am going to pick up the supplies today for my fence which will 400 ft X 260 X 250 X 20. Yes it is shaped narrow at the head of my driveway so that's where the 20 ft comes in. On the side that's about 260 ft, there are a line of trees for maybe about 100 ft. For the remaining 150 ft there are no trees and for the 400 ft side there are no trees. The 20 ft front, the 400 ft side, and the 150 ft (of the 260 ft), there are no trees so my question is with just 2 strands of 14 gauge wire, will I need bracings every say 100 ft of any side where there are no trees? I have to double check and see if the trees are straight enough to use in the above area mentioned. If they are, I know that will be sufficient and I won't need any t post in that area.

At the corners will I be fine without any bracing? I think I have seen a many of pasture setups that weren't extensive and didnt have a whole lot of animals or anything be just a basic setup. They have been up for yrs so I'm guessing they are fine lol.

Also, am I correct in that the wire cannot touch the T post at all but it can touch wood post or the tree? I will use t post clips but just wondering in certain cases where one would think to tie off to the t post in certain spots if that would be ok? Any other tid bits you can offer or advise would be greatly appreciated. Also, would it be easier to run the wire out all the way the length of that that side, tie it off or put weight on it so it will stay in place but give some, then just hook up to each? I tried to find a video on youtube but didnt really see anything.
     
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    07-22-2011, 11:46 AM
  #2
Trained
If you tie off to a T-post you are grounding the wire and defeating the purpose of having an electric fence. Do not tie off on the t-post itself.

By bracing, what exactly are you meaning?
     
    07-22-2011, 11:51 AM
  #3
Weanling
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Originally Posted by NdAppy    
If you tie off to a T-post you are grounding the wire and defeating the purpose of having an electric fence. Do not tie off on the t-post itself.

By bracing, what exactly are you meaning?
I edited orginal post. It can though touch wood post or the tree? I mean corner post bracing with 3 post. 2 post in a line and the other to the left or right of the first post, sort of like an " L " shape. I have seen some have that on their fence setup and some not
     
    07-22-2011, 11:58 AM
  #4
Trained
No, you do not want it touching a wood post or the trees either.

Are you using the trees as part of your fence support?
     
    07-22-2011, 12:01 PM
  #5
Weanling
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Originally Posted by NdAppy    
No, you do not want it touching a wood post or the trees either.

Are you using the trees as part of your fence support?
yes, on that side that's 260 ft long, for about 100-150 ft there are trees. I have to double check to see how straight they are and if they are straight enough I will use them. On the other sides mentioned, there will be no trees except on the side that's about 250, there are some trees for about 80 ft or so so I will be able to use the trees for that lenght but not the other 170 ft
     
    07-22-2011, 12:02 PM
  #6
Banned
Though wood is not a good conductor of electricity it will still short out your fence.

You need insulators even on trees (if you are using them as a fence post).


I too am not sure what you mean by bracing when you talking about every 100' on the long sides.
     
    07-22-2011, 12:04 PM
  #7
Trained
AB I thinking that they mean something similar to this -
     
    07-22-2011, 12:08 PM
  #8
Banned
OOOOH.

He plans to do that on the straight sides?

I can see it at the corners.

Tough, using T-posts you are really not able to pull your fencing too tight.
     
    07-22-2011, 12:08 PM
  #9
Weanling
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Originally Posted by Alwaysbehind    
Though wood is not a good conductor of electricity it will still short out your fence.

You need insulators even on trees (if you are using them as a fence post).


I too am not sure what you mean by bracing when you talking about every 100' on the long sides.
i'm talking bout corner bracings, and then I guess every 100 ft of the 400 ft side, have regular post for support of that side. Supported every say 100 ft so it won't be just 400 ft of just wire and t post. I guess the wooden post would support it better. And nah I know I needed insulators for the trees and stuff, I guess I was trying to see how I would get the wire to turn the corner on the corner post. Looking at TSC site right now and appears they sell corner post insulators that would let the wire curve so it will bend to start the next line. Gotta see if I see any though for actualy t post and not just wood cause I might not use corner wood post bracing , or any bracing at all if I will be ok without it.
     
    07-22-2011, 12:15 PM
  #10
Trained
I have H braces every 100 feet or so on our pasture with the t-post approximately 8 feet apart, if that helps you any.

Mine are similar to this -


For you tension wires I suggest getting these as they are much easier and safer than twisting a stick in the fence. - Heavy-Duty Wire Strainer - 3602217 | Tractor Supply Company
     

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