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    10-17-2010, 06:38 PM
Find this a bit excessive

Just looking for others opinions on this!!

Were I agist my mare the owner does the rugging and feeding of our horses for us with our own feeds and schedules of course..

Anyway while I was at the stable yesterday the owner was there mixing a feed for a new horse that has just arrived.

The instructions that she was given called for this horse to be fed six kgs of hard feed a day!!! As well as half a bale of hey!! This horse is not underweight and is not stableD it is on pasture full time and in work twice a week..
The horse is a clydesdale cross tb of eighteen years and right now its spring here so the grass is pretty good..

The person who has just bought this horse is im suspecting a little green with owning horses..

Maybe im completely wrong maybe other people on here feed there horse that much in a day also...

Please let me know because I was shocked the amount of feed that was needed ment the agistment owner had to come back from her rounds feeding the others just to carry this horses feed on its own in the wheel barrow ha ha..

I thought over feeding could cause major health issues??

Cheers, B
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    10-17-2010, 06:45 PM
OMG! I have a Clyde cross, who is now 21. I have had him for 17 yrs. When I bought him, the breeder told me "NO GRAIN!"

So, for 17 yrs, this guy has only gotten about 1/2 a cup of 12% pellets twice a day, and a couple of flakes AT MOST of hay twice a day, and that is only in the winter when there is not as much grass. He lives on air, and has always had a weight issue-OVERWIEGHT! You can see him in my barn.

I would strongly suggest they rethink their thinking of this guy. Bigger does not always mean more, and I would hate for him to founder.
    10-17-2010, 06:57 PM
Yeah my thoughts exactly' the owner of the agistment property isn't horsey as far as owning her own but she has ran the place for over fifteen years so she is very good with doing the feeds and rugs but she said she has never fed a horse this much either!!

Not sure how to raise the conversation with her actually being new to the property I don't want her to fell uncomfortable and we all no how touchy horsey people can be able there "experience"
    10-17-2010, 07:01 PM
I would ask her if the horse was getting that much where he came from. If he is new to his woners, you would think they would have asked..... Someone has to raise the question or this guy will be fat, and very very sick!
    10-19-2010, 01:20 AM

Yes, 'a bit excessive' sounds an understatement! Has your barn owner got a clue about it? While the half bale of hay isn't necessarily(It's spring here & HEAPS of too good grass, but I'm feeding hay to lessen the amount of sugary grass my horses are eating), it sounds like that is not the reason for this horse getting fed that much, as the 'hard feed' may well cancel out any benefits of more hay/less grass.

Re 6kg hard feed, you don't say what it is, but I'm betting there's at least some grain in it. You also don't say over how many feeds the horse gets this amount. I'm hoping 6kg is being fed over at least 3 meals absolute minimum. Horses don't cope well with high starch/sugar feeds like grain and particularly in large feeds & especially if the grain is not well processed. They have evolved to eat low grade forage little & often. They have small stomachs(about the size of ours) and quick metabolisms. That means that aside from the basic problem of excess calories/sugars & risk of IR etc, that large starchy feeds don't tend to even get digested in the stomach & pass through to the hind gut where they cause 'hind gut acidosis' and relating problems, including ulcers, colic, weight loss, laminitis....
    10-19-2010, 06:19 AM
6kg is just over 13lbs. Divided over 2 meals per day that is 6 1/2 lbs of feed 2x per day.
Lets say 1.5lbs per quart (average for pelleted feed), so that means 4.3qts of feed.

Which, if you think about it is not a huge quantity of feed.

If this horse is not a super easy keeper that does not seem like a crazy quantity of grain.

Half a bale of hay, well that depends on how much the bales weigh. If they are 50lb square bales that is only 25lbs of hay. Probably the amount this big should have.

Neither amount seems scary to me. It certainly is not something worth freaking about and preaching about founder and colic.
    10-19-2010, 06:53 AM
I agree with AB. If you look at the instructions on bag most of them suggest 1 lbs/100 lbs of weight or something like that (read, A LOT). Which means for my qh I have to feed 10 lbs. I personally feed just may be 2-3 lbs at the most split in 2 meals to each of them, but some horses in hard work do need that full amount.
    10-19-2010, 07:08 AM
Green Broke
I agree it is not nessecarily excessive for that horse, however it is excessive for one meal
A horse cannot digest any more the 2kg of feed at a time so any over that is wasted.

Suggest she splits it into 3 feeds.

Oh and the hay is not excessive at all, my 15hh pony eats half a bale of hay a day in winter.
    10-19-2010, 05:31 PM
The feed is high in grain content its a pre mixed performance horse feed by Prideys..
This is fed to the horse once a day in the evening as is the hey our bales are heavy as in one person canc arry them but you do the awkward struggle walk to carry them lol..
Our barn owner is not the owner of the horse and does not dictate to the horse owners what they can and can't do with there own horses' which I respect greatly however this surely cannot be healthy for a horse who is on grass 24/7 and is rolly polly already' as well as being on performance feed high in grain content when being worked once or twice a week' won't this cause laminitis??
    10-20-2010, 11:20 AM
It is impossible to make a blanket statement about this being bad or not bad.

Maybe it took quite a bit more than this amount of grain to get this horse fat. Who knows.

Saying the bales are heavy and you have to walk funny to carry them means pretty much nothing. Even a light bale (30lbs) is awkward to carry because of its size and weight. A 50lb bale can be very difficult to carry depending on the person, some other people can carry two.

I would leave this issue to the barn owner to discuss with the owner.

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