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    08-17-2007, 02:24 PM
  #1
Yearling
Founder?

What does it mean when a horse founders?
     
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    08-17-2007, 02:56 PM
  #2
Started
Laminitis causes foundering...basically when the bone sinks down into the sole of the hoof. Sinking and foundering mean the same thing.
     
    08-17-2007, 04:09 PM
  #3
Foal
founder

Although the definitions given are correct there are many stages of founder before you get to rotation of the coffin bone or sinking as stated. Many horses have mild founder that can be treated and live useful lives.
     
    08-17-2007, 04:15 PM
  #4
Foal
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    08-17-2007, 04:31 PM
  #5
Started
Lol, what the heck is wrong with the keyword code? My post was turning out wonky too:P
     
    08-17-2007, 10:21 PM
  #6
Yearling
Laminitis is a condition where the fingerlike projections on the inside of the hoof wall and the ones attached to the bones of the foot become inflammed...this makes their hold on each other (which what holds the bones in the foot in the proper position) weaker and can allow the bones of the foot to actually sink down or to rotate so that the pointed "toe" of the coffin bone spins towards the soal of the foot. Founder is a commonly used term for the chronic painful condition when the bones have shifted their position.

Laminitis can be triggered by tons of things--toxins from a bacterial infection anywhere in the body, colic, overload of carbs (getting into the feed bag), too much green grass all of a sudden, etc. It's commonly seen when a horse has a metabolic condition called Insulin Resistance--this is when the green grass or even normal amounts of carbs becomes a major causative factors in bouts of laminitis.

Here are a couple of really good informative links for you:

http://www.thehorse.com/ViewArticle....2&kw=laminitis

http://www.thehorse.com/ViewArticle....3&kw=laminitis
     
    08-17-2007, 11:24 PM
  #7
Yearling
What causes it?
     
    08-18-2007, 12:07 AM
  #8
Started
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laminitis can be triggered by tons of things--toxins from a bacterial infection anywhere in the body, colic, overload of carbs (getting into the feed bag), too much green grass all of a sudden, etc. It's commonly seen when a horse has a metabolic condition called Insulin Resistance--this is when the green grass or even normal amounts of carbs becomes a major causative factors in bouts of laminitis.
you might try reading her post, does your horse have it?
     
    08-18-2007, 02:24 AM
  #9
Foal
Will the horse die?

Just tonight Grafton ( one of the horses I love dearly at the stable I ride at) Had to go to the vet because we thought he was tying up but really he has patomac horse fever and he is lame in all 4 feet and is foundering. It's so sad.

I'm having a hard time with this. I love him so much!
     
    08-18-2007, 11:43 AM
  #10
Yearling
It's probably secondary to the PHF. No founder won't kill him, but it requires careful treatment otherwise you can get to a point where euthanasia is the only humane option because the coffin bone can move so much that it comes out the bottom of the hoof.
     

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