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    10-19-2009, 09:22 PM
  #1
Foal
Foundered

I'm new to this forum so first I want to say hi to everyone. I am a fairly new horse owner I got my first horse sassy 4 years ago when I moved out of my parents house but I had to move back home a couple of years ago and had to leave Sassy behind (that was very hard) but I just rcently got her back. When I did get her back she had thrush bad I have been doctoring that with apple cyder vin. But I just found out yesterday she is foundered all the guy would tell me was keep her off the grass in the spring if I cared about her at all. He said once they have it that's it they have it. Any ideas of what else I can do for her. I just got her back and I don't want to lose her again. Thank you
     
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    10-19-2009, 09:42 PM
  #2
Started
I would have the vet out to check it out. They can take x rays to see how bad she foundered - hopefully it's just a little rotation - no drop. But they can tell you exactly what you need to do for her depending on the situation. Then, from there you can customize her care program - she might need to be turned out in a dry lot, since lush grass can trigger another episode. She may also require special shoes. There are a lot a variables that may need to be changed.....

Get the vet out as soon as you can to check the severity of the problem you're dealing with.
     
    10-19-2009, 09:43 PM
  #3
Trained
I did an advanced search on this forum for "founder" under "horse health" and got three pages of threads. Here is just one example.
Founder.. (x rays & shoe photos)

Browse around and see what you find and maybe you can give us more of a story on your poor girl. Pics would be nice too. Xrays if you have them.
Founder does NOT mean its the end of anything usually.
     
    10-19-2009, 10:06 PM
  #4
Foal
I will get a vet out asap. Thank you
     
    10-20-2009, 08:43 AM
  #5
Trained
Hi,

First & foremost, get your learning cap on & go to hoofrehab.com & safergrass.org for starters, then learn all you can from other sources. You will find that there is very much you can do to rehabilitate her & avoid future problems.

Diet is a big factor, and as with humans with diabetes, if a horse develops insuline resistance or cushings, for eg, their diet will likely have to be managed for life, not just if they're fat or some such. Laminitis is the inflammation & subsequent damage & weakening or separation of the laminae which connect hoof wall to coffin bone. This appears to be caused by metabolic(diet, insuline, etc) problems.

Proper hoofcare & good management are also vital to hoof health, whether rehabilitating or keeping them sound. I suggest finding a good hoof care practitioner and keeping the horse out of shoes, but booted if necessary for comfort, to enable her to get exercise & good hoof function.
     
    10-20-2009, 12:57 PM
  #6
Green Broke
Founder can be dealt with. She needs to be on hay only, no rich grains or horse feeds. There are low-starch feeds out there if she needs feed or a simple vitamin mixed with hay pellets works well. Adding magnesium in her diet can help her body process the sugars found in hay and grass better, which will help prevent another founder episode. Before buying any supplements though, I would have the vet do x-rays to see how bad the founder was.

You can also manage founder using barefoot trimming techniques. You don't always need special shoes. If the rotation isn't too bad, then just trimming her to level out the coffin bone will improve her soundness. You'll need to show those x-rays to your farrier or trimmer so the feet can be trimmed or shod accordingly.

Here's a good web site from a well known barefoot trimmer that has had great success treating foundered horses without the use of shoes.
Pete Ramey hoof care heals founder in horse’s navicular disease farrier

Good luck!
     
    10-20-2009, 02:23 PM
  #7
Trained
Corrective shoeing and preventative feeding have both been suggested, this is good.
As far as for if she flares up - bute and cold hosing!
And for dealing with the ringbone that will ensue, probably fairly aggressively, talk to your vet about options to prevent it as much as possible.

Good luck!
     
    10-20-2009, 05:39 PM
  #8
Yearling
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Originally Posted by ~*~anebel~*~    
And for dealing with the ringbone that will ensue, probably fairly aggressively,
Good luck!

I'd like to see some evidence that just because a horse founders they are automatically going to get ringbone.
You do know that ringbone is a joint condition.....don't scare the poor girl.


Ringbone

Osteoarthritis of the pastern joint and/or coffin joints is known as ringbone. Cartilage, the cushion between joints, breaks down and the bones rub together. Often caused by abnormal joint stress due to poorly balanced hooves or improper shoeing, ringbone is treated with anti-inflammatories, pain medications and physical therapy. Joint supplements such as chondroitin sulfate and glucosamine are often recommended.

And more: http://www.horsechannel.com/horse-he...one-21763.aspx
     
    10-20-2009, 08:15 PM
  #9
Foal
I called the vet but they were already closed. The lady I talked to said the vet comes to the town I live by once a week so I have to call them tomorrow to find out what day they will be here. I took a few pics of her feet maybe some of you could see what I am missing.


     
    10-20-2009, 08:25 PM
  #10
Foal
     

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