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post #1 of 13 Old 06-05-2013, 04:32 PM Thread Starter
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Is A Foundered Horse Not Being Cared For Illegal?

I'm not quite sure I have this in the right thread or not, but I hope somebody can help me!

Everyday I pass by a farm that has one large horse and one small pony/mini horse, and today for the first time I saw the pony attempting to walk. From what I saw it looked extremely foundered. Both the equines are in a big grass pasture. I was wondering if that would be considered as illegal? I'm located in Ontario, Canada.
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post #2 of 13 Old 06-05-2013, 04:38 PM
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So long as there is food/ water and the animal is healthy in appearnce most ac won't do anything. You could still call and voice your concern for the animal but it is unlikely they will actually do anything. However it also depends on the specific laws in your area too I think. Where I live our ac are incredibly lazy, we had 2 pit type dogs tied up across the street that got increasingly skinny and when we called they did nothing, even when I stopped one who was picking up a stray and pointed them out they didn't do anything.

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post #3 of 13 Old 06-05-2013, 04:51 PM
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Welcome to the forum. It doesn't hurt to make noise. If it's obvious the horse is in pain .. make noise about it.
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post #4 of 13 Old 06-05-2013, 06:46 PM
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I think you are going about this a very confrontational way. Have you stopped and gotten acquainted with the owner? The owner may not know any better. Most people do not keep horses fat and on good grass because they hate them or want them to be in pain. Most grass foundered horses get that way through ignorance.

Are you an adult?

If not, get a reasonable and knowledgeable adult to go with you. Go talk to the owner in a friendly and non-confrontational way. Accusing someone and threatening to 'turn them in' will get you no where.

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post #5 of 13 Old 06-05-2013, 06:50 PM
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You know Cherie I thought about adding that way to late, you are completely right .

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post #6 of 13 Old 06-05-2013, 07:57 PM
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Cherie is right. If it is more neglect than abuse, then not much can be done by animal control. Talk to the owners and see if they are approachable. They may welcome your concern and help. Let us know what happens.
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post #7 of 13 Old 06-05-2013, 08:20 PM
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Yep, I'd definitely say something about it... but to the owners first if at all possible. Yes, this is unacceptable, if the horse is left lame & untreated, but I do believe most cases of cruelty or neglect are unintentional, that people may just be ignorant to problems or options. ...& I'm sure we've all had at least one or 2 experiences of feeling bad about something when we learned better, to understand & forgive ignorance. I would go to animal control or whoever only after I'd attempted to speak to the owners.
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post #8 of 13 Old 06-06-2013, 12:32 PM
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Offering to help goes a long way, if you are in a position to help them. I had a neighbor who was not having her horses trimmed because she had trouble affording it and was physically unable to help the farrier hold them. She was happy to let me help trim them, or hold them for the farrier when I didn't have time to do the trimming. I also helped her rehome them once she came to terms with not being able to care for them.
It's also possible that they know, and are working with a farrier, but aren't very educated about taking the pony off grass. I was terrified someone would call animal control on me when I first brought my pony mare home. She was skin and bones thin (the vet told my mom to starve her) and badly foundered and living on a dry lot. It probably looked like I was torturing her to people driving by. Keep in mind that you don't know the whole story, so try not accuse them of anything until you talk to them.
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post #9 of 13 Old 06-06-2013, 12:43 PM
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A lot of amateur/new horse owners are buying in to the whole letting a horse live out 24/7 on wonderful lush pasture is natural and so good for them. Of course more educated owners know that isn't the case but cases of laminitis and insulin resistance syndrome in horses are rising all the time
Speaking to the owners should be the first thing to do but do be prepared that you might get a rude response and asked to leave
If that happens as the pony is in pain and will only get worse you probably should contact a local horse welfare group and get them involved, they'll have a better idea of what the process and legal implications are
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post #10 of 13 Old 06-06-2013, 01:34 PM
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I doesn't hurt to call and have the authorities do a welfare check. If you can go talk to the owners in person and offer advice/help then do so, but if not a call hurts nobody, and can only help the horse if abuse/neglect is found.
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