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    07-22-2011, 07:10 AM
Originally Posted by walkinthewalk    

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2. Put on a high quality bagged feed for these types horses or a ration balancer. I would prefer a ration balancer that is vit/min fortified.
3. Grazing muzzle for turnout or put in a dry lot with weight-measured hay (that would be dry before you soak it).
3.1 If dry-lotted, scatter the hay around so she has to move because she needs exercise.

This Southern States link talks about feeding insulin resistant horses, but it's the same game plan for a cushings horse.

Feeding the Insulin Resistant Horse - Southern States

I must respectfully disagree, cushings horses do not follow the same game plan as insulin resistant horses. My horse has been diagnosed with and treated for cushings for the last 7 years. He gets grain every day, in fact he is given cob and a mix of equine senior. He is also fed ten lbs of alfalfa hay twice a day. This would probably do great harm to a truly metabolic horse, however cushings is in a sense a whole different animal. The best plan for you would probably to have some tests done perhaps by a vet who is well read in the syndrome. They can give you a much better feel for the correct feeding plan.
It is of upmost importance that your horse is diagnosed with the correct disorder, cushings is no joke and your horse should be treated right away, my horse has been on Pergolide for 7 years, he is now 28 and has never looked better, no joke people can't even fathom he is as old as he is. I have also seen metabolic horses be prescribed this drug, and it was very effective.
Yep. My horse got pasture, senior feed, mixed hay heavy on the alfalfa. She was on pergolide for 13 years, never foundered, stayed at perfect weight. She was not IR. She died at almost 34 to something not related to Cushings.

People can get hyperpituitary too & it is treated with surgery through the nose. Sadly, there is no easy access to a horse's pituitary gland or they could be cured too.
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    07-22-2011, 07:58 AM
Green Broke
I agree with Walkinthewalk. Cushings and IR very different and should be managed differently.

I'm currently managing 2 with cushings and one is still competing at a high level, the other is finaly putting weight back on after a very bad winter.
They both get good amounts of hard feed (as I'm in the UK brands would mean very little to you), thier hard feeds are normaly veteran mixes.

Harvey got lammi once due to cushings (this bout triggered all the investigations into whether or not he had cushings) but since being on Pergolide has never had an issue.

Harvey gets an insane amount of hard feed and an insane amount of alfabeet, he is also out 24/7 on dairy grazing. Niether are ponies are IR though.
    07-22-2011, 08:40 AM
Green Broke
I may have said in an earlier post that I have a friend whose 22 yo Paso Fino is both Cushing and IR. He does not get grain and that is the vet's orders.

I, personally, would not feed grain to a cushings horse but since metabolism is involved and workload is a heavy part of the maintenance formula, I am sure some cushings horses can have grain.

The horse I allude to, had to be permanently retired from even light trail riding because the Owner can't keep his hooves from abscessing and he foundered pretty good on her in Fall, 2010. It has become a royal fight to save the life of her best friend for the last 15 years

Since he is not even able to carry her granddaughter around the yard, he does not need grain

The OP should talk to an equine nutritionist and quickly figure out the best diet for her horse, according to its environment and the work it will be doing, as Time is of the Essence with these horses.
    07-22-2011, 09:05 AM
Green Broke
Sorry I got that wrong, that should have read I agree with Horsecrzy94 not walkinthewalk. I was being lazy and not going back and checking who said what.

Harvey is fully retired. Never had an issue with insane amounts of hard feed. It is very nessecary for him otherwise he would look like a walking toast rack

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