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post #11 of 44 Old 07-12-2009, 11:17 PM
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maybe not my place to speak here but not everyone has a savings account for their horse, but it doesnt mean we cant take care of them.

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post #12 of 44 Old 07-12-2009, 11:19 PM
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I'm really not trying to be mean... but, if you have to save up money to have your horse's teeth floated, maybe you shouldn't have horses. Part of ownership is being able to provide care in an emergency, and if you don't have money for the vet, what are you going to do?
Times are tight for everyone. I have to save up for the veterinary visits. Does it make me a bad owner?. According to what you've said that would mean that 90% of people who own horses should give them up because we don't have cash that we can pull out of out butts..

At least she's trying. Unlike some who wouldn't give a crap.

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post #13 of 44 Old 07-12-2009, 11:22 PM
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maybe not my place to speak here but not everyone has a savings account for their horse, but it doesnt mean we cant take care of them.
I understand, I don't have one for horses, but if one of my horses needed something I could pay for it up to about $400 out of pocket. Anything more than that and their insurance would have to kick in or I would start calling family/friends to see if I could get a "loan".

Just, a tooth float is about $70 here, so let's say $50-$100, depending on where you are. And if he's having trouble eating, I think he needs one NOW. Especially if he is in pain.

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Times are tight for everyone. I have to save up for the veterinary visits. Does it make me a bad owner?. According to what you've said that would mean that 90% of people who own horses should give them up because we don't have cash that we can pull out of out butts..

At least she's trying. Unlike some who wouldn't give a crap.
No, it doesn't make you a bad owner. If there is one thing I know, it's vets can be expensive. I'm just raising the point, that if my always-hungry horse was off his feed then that deserves attention now, IMO. I said I NOT was trying to be mean, just food for thought. I realize she's looking for advice/the solution, which I commend her for.

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post #15 of 44 Old 07-12-2009, 11:37 PM
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If you know your vet good enough like I do, they would give you lots of advice over the phone, it has saved me lots of vet bills

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No, it doesn't make you a bad owner. If there is one thing I know, it's vets can be expensive. I'm just raising the point, that if my always-hungry horse was off his feed then that deserves attention now, IMO. I said I NOT was trying to be mean, just food for thought. I realize she's looking for advice/the solution, which I commend her for.

Just, a tooth float is about $70 here, so let's say $50-$100, depending on where you are. And if he's having trouble eating, I think he needs one NOW. Especially if he is in pain.
Yeah well your "food for though" was offensive and rude. How old are you anyway? do you actually pay your horses bills 100% or do your parents help?. Because I know that "just" a $50-100 tooth float is still counts and adds up in the end.
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Britt: you can also try soaking the alfafia and add a very little corn and you can try adding applesauce(unsweetened) to it.I had to do that to get my horse to eat his minerals and he loved it.If that works just add more corn the next feeding.

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Yeah well your "food for though" was offensive and rude. How old are you anyway? do you actually pay your horses bills 100% or do your parents help?. Because I know that "just" a $50-100 tooth float is still counts and adds up in the end.
Well, excuse me.
I'm trying to get her to look at other options, maybe she hasn't thought about emergency care and now she can put a plan together in case something did happen. Really, who wants to see a suffering horse (not that hers are). I have seen dying horses where the owner can't afford the euth/disposal. The horses have to die a slow/painful/whatver death, not quick/humane.

Selling isn't the only option (I know it's hard to part with them, and I would hate to see her do that), but she could half lease and split vet/farrier/dentist with someone, so it's not as much.

And my age is not important. I can tell you that I pay for EVERYTHING for my 3 horses. I also work and go to school full time so I can pay for them. And make sure I have enough put away for rainy days.

I don't see why you're attacking me, for saying one thing - I said MAYBE she shouldn't have horses - not, she shouldn't. I don't know her situation... maybe she is just having a rough time with this economy.

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post #19 of 44 Old 07-12-2009, 11:54 PM
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Corn is okay for horses, but it gives them a lot of energy, since it is extremely high in starches. Some up to 40% in starch. Starch causes lactic acid in the hind gut and is never fully digested. This leads to small problems such as being 'mareish' and more severe problems that we believe is training, when in fact it is what we are feeding. The culprit is the high starch levelsIf I had to feed it I would mix it with some other grain - oats or something.

Also make sure it is very high quality corn - if you feed moldy/bad corn it can lead to “Equine Leukoecephalomalacia,” or ELEM. It is a fatal illness that leads to an aberration in the consistency of the brain-matter brought on by the chemicals in the mold. Or it may contain Aflatoxins which are molds and will cause liver damage in horses and other animals that consume the contaminated feed. Most mills check for it - make sure yours does.
Between the starch, high energy, and possibility of mold, why in the heck would you say "corn is okay for horses"?

Corn is a low protein, low nutrient, "Candy" feed for horses. It is NOT good for them. Plain whole oats is a much better choice, if you have to feed a whole grain. They have a decent nutrient content, and are slightly less "starchy". But really, she's already feeding alfalfa pellets, which are good for horses, high nutrient with quality protein, good energy. So, there is no need to feed corn.
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post #20 of 44 Old 07-12-2009, 11:58 PM
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As long as the horse hasn't lost a lot of weight (is at least a 4 on the henneke scale), then he can go a little while longer to have his teeth fixed/floated while you save up. Don't worry, you're not a bad owner . You care and you're trying.
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