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    08-01-2009, 03:13 AM
Give me the low-down on cribbing

I have a mare coming home next week that I just found out cribs. I've never had a horse that cribs. To be totally honest, I'm not even sure I know what it is, aside from chewing on fence rails.

I have one fence rail - well - it's the gate really. She's coming to me with a crib collar. She's also underweight (see my thread in the critique section). I've noticed around the traps some whisperings of weight and cribbing being linked.

Any and all info would be highly appreciated!!!
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    08-01-2009, 04:22 AM
Hi, I;m New here and I was reading about what you wrote, this is what I know on cribbing just about every horse I have had that cribs I rescued and most of the time they were very under weight or locked up in a stall never getting any kind of turn out to be a horse, most of the horses after there weight & health were back up to par they stopped the cribbing but some did still crib but most of the time it was the horses that were kept stalled. I know of a supplement that has worked for me in the past and it's made by Farnam and it's called Quitt but it only works on wood chewers you need to find out if your horse is a wood chewer or wind sucker because I have never seen a wind sucker ever stop unless wearing a cribbing strap they will klamp there teeth on any thing and start sucking wind you will know it if your horse does it!! I hope I have help it don't mean the horses is a bad horse or it will kill them or any thing from what my vets have told me it just manly done out of boredom or lack of feed high fiber diets can help with wood chewing too. I try to keep lots of hay or pasture avlable to free choice unless I have a horse to fat.
    08-01-2009, 04:33 AM
Well there is wood chewing and actual cribbing.

Cribbers will hook there upper jaw on any surface they can hook onto and they will pull back and suck air. I knew one mare in a hot wire pasture that would latch on to the water trough and the big pasture blocks of alfalfa.

1. Collar so that they cannot fully pull and stretch the muscles at the throat.
2. Acupuncture - seriously, there are areas targeted for cribbing.
3. probiotics - could stem from ulcers and upset gut or lead to it.
4. b-calm - could stem from anxiety
5. Dr. Britt from Roadrunner Vet Clinic in Plant City, Fl put nose rings for hogs on the above mentioned mare. He pinched 2 on first and then later added 2 more. The mare did great for months and then ended up getting out of her pasture one night and paced trying to get back. She started cribbing again after and didn't matter what you did.
6. Give the horse a steady job - boredom is # 1 culprit
7. "Hook proof" every accessible surface. One boarder had to hammer nails in her stall for her horse. She placed them about 1" apart and angled the heads enough so that he couldn't grab those. He only did it in the stall.
8. When stalled, give them all the hay they can eat, place a salt brick, and give them boredom breaker toys.
9. Provide plenty of turnout and distraction.
10. Pray
    08-01-2009, 04:37 AM
The hog ring deal is where the rings are pinched onto the upper jaw. It loops from one side of the gum, over the tooth and into the backside of the gum. Dr. Britt says if 4 don't do it won't work on that horse. He has 80% success and it doesn't seem to bother the horse. They eat and drink and ride fine.
    08-01-2009, 08:07 AM
I only know 1 hard-core cribber, and he runs the whole spectrum of cribbing and wood chewing. The Miracle Collar ends it, but he still licks the wood. He's far from underwieght, and my suspicion is that his issues are sheer boredom. About the only thing that keeps him from it is regular exercise: turnout helps some, a visit from the trainer helps more (his owners don't ride).

I've heard that making a paste out of cayenne pepper and painting "cribbable" areas with it will deter them, but, honestly, I think the cribber I know likes the taste .
    08-01-2009, 08:25 AM
A cribber is like a drug addict - the act of cribbing releases endorphins and gives the horse a "high" similar to a runner's high. In the case of a horse I've never seen it stop and it can be destructive to stalls, fences, etc as well as the horse itself. It can cause digestive problems since the horse is taking in gulps of air with no mechanism to dispel it. A cribbing collar can work but your horse can never be without it. I've heard of rare cases where it has stopped but after a lifetime around horses I have a hard time believing it.

Here is a video of a cribber that I bought a few years ago. I returned the horse as soon as it was discovered. This didn't start from boredom since the horse was always pastured - even at my farm. Close as we can figure out she learned to do it with a collar on since she uses the gate under her jaw and that would bypass the collar. Her teeth were worn down from years of holding on to the fence to cribb.

Personally, no matter how good the horse is, I will not have a cribber on my farm. Other horses have learned to follow the example of the cribber and the habit can spread - besides, the sound drives me crazy (LOL).
    08-01-2009, 08:57 AM
Originally Posted by iridehorses    
Close as we can figure out she learned to do it with a collar on since she uses the gate under her jaw and that would bypass the collar. Her teeth were worn down from years of holding on to the fence to cribb.
I've seen the teeth on a hard-core cribber, he wears them down when the collar is forgotten or left off. Not a pretty sight at all. I'm not sure how he could possibly be grazing properly.
    08-01-2009, 11:25 AM
I have a wind sucker . He was taught that by another horse I purchased that wind sucked and I didn't know it until I got it home. That horse could wind suck just by holding his head down. The horse he taught that nasty habit to still wind sucks on occasion, even though he has 12 acres to run on and gets worked on a regular schedule. I tried the collar, but he learned to somehow roll the collar making it useless. I was once told that to cure a cribber or wind sucker you have to make them stop for twice as long as they been doing the habit.

As an afterthought... the cribber I brought home only taught the habit to one horse, the other horses never picked up the habit, and today the one that learned the habit is still the one only. I think some horses are more preposition to the habit.
    08-01-2009, 12:06 PM
I can't turn her away :( She needs a home.
    08-01-2009, 12:44 PM
Green Broke
First off, cribbing is not good, nor desireable, etc.

* Makes them lose weight.
* Other horses will see them and mimick the cribbing behavior.
* Horse always has to wear a tight collor.
* You barn will be ripped up in no time if you allow her to crib freely.
* Easily at risk for colic.
* That's ALL they do, practically. *burp* click *burp* click *burp*
* Has to be fed extra grain, extra protein in order to keep the proper weight on the horse.
* And all in all, not a nice desireable thing. I always steer away from cribbers.

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