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post #31 of 48 Old 11-09-2009, 02:28 PM Thread Starter
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Ok, I grabbed the wrapper this morning. It prevents East Nile, West Nile, Rhino, Influenza, and Tetanus. The enci-something I was thinking of was Encephalomyelitis that's caused by East and West Nile.

I do have a question about the injection site being swollen though. Ricci's isn't that bad, maybe ping-pong ball sized. Gracie's though, is about as big as my hand, or an oblong softball. Gracie did get poked twice, which is part of why hers is so much bigger. I have been cold-hosing Gracie's site to help, but I was wondering about a medication of some kind. My options are Equi-Spirin [horse asprin], Bute, A Tri-Hist granule anti-histamine, and Benadryl. What would be best? Should I give her an anti-histamine because it a reaction, or a painkiller and anti-inflammatory because it's tender and swollen? The Tri-Hist stuff is my friend's, perscribed by a vet, so it's stronger than benadryl, at least I'd assume. I gave Gracie 3 Benadryl this morning, and Ricci 6 of them. They each got a dose of Equi-Spirin last night, and it helped some. I don't know. What should I give them!? Lol.

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post #32 of 48 Old 11-09-2009, 05:51 PM
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Contact your vet and asking about dosing. At work we generally recommend Bute, but your vet may choose something else based upon your horse's history.
Also rather than cold hosing, consider hot packing the areas twice a day for 10-15 minutes.

Beside EEE and WNV, you should be vaccinating against WEE.

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What's WEE? Because my horse has never gotten it. When I talked to my vet about it a year ago, she said they usually do WNV, Rhino, Influenza, and Tetanus.

I can figure out dosing, it's all based on weight. I just don't know if an anti-inflammatory and pain killer will help more, or if an antihistamine will work more. Neither of my horse's have a history, lol. This is Gracie's second round shots and Ricci hasn't gotten anything but the basic vaccines and coggins and whatnot to show in Paint shows.

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post #34 of 48 Old 11-09-2009, 10:49 PM
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Don't forget to give Rabies shots to your horse. Mine get this once a year.

In the future, you might want to give these shots one at a time and observe which is causing the swelling. I've found it is usually the tetanus shot that has caused swelling so I give it along with a dosage of Bute the day before and a couple days after, that helps a lot to prevent swelling/tenderness.
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Well it was a five way, it would have been a lot more expensive to get each shot individually, and if I were willing to spend that much, the vet would have come out to do it. Also, my vets have not suggested a rabies vaccine.

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You're right Ricci, in WA state we have a very low rabies reservoir and many vets here don't recommend rabies unless you are showing but still, might not be a bad idea. WEE is western equine encephalitis and some people vaccinate for VEE -venezualan equine encephalitis.
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VEE is typically vaccinated against in states that border Mexico because though it hasn't been seen in the US in years it is still a problem in Mexico. But EEE and WEE should be vaccinated against in all areas of the US.

As for rabies, it's recommended that all horses be vaccinated against it because it is deadly and we are seeing more and more cases of it in domestic animals. Plus, rabies can present in many ways in a horse and even if it's presenting as neurological symptoms it's not the first thing people think of so a single horse can expose multiple people before rabies is even considered as a possibility. For example, there was a horse a few months ago that presented "colicy" and was treated at the local veterinary clinic. However symtpoms didn't resolve and the horse ended up being shipped to a large equine facility where it underwent colic surgery. But once the horse was on the surgery table ( a feat that takes several people), the GI tract was normal. Eventually the horse was diagnosed with rabies and had exposed the owner, the employees and vet at the initial vet facility, the surgical team and the large equine facility and anyone else that contacted that horse during the time between onset of symptoms and diagnosis.

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In regards to rabies. It is also become more normal practice to only vaccinate every other year. This is also the case in dogs, and cats they are recommending every 3 years. This is because the vaccine used for rabies has proven to be quite effective, and animals are carrying those antibodies longer, so as a result, vaccinating yearly for rabies is most likely not necessary.

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This is not true. Rabies vaccinations have NOT been proven to provide protection for more than a year in horses. Even in dogs and cats the length of time that vaccinations provide protection for varies because they are not just different looking animals on the outside. Each species must be studied seperately because they ARE DIFFERENT and do not all respond to the same things in the same way. Hence the difference in the diseases and parasites which infect different species and the difference in what types of drugs can be used in each species safely.

Rabies vaccination in horses is still recommended yearly. There are no studies that show that rabies vaccination lasts for 3 or even 2 years in horses.

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A general note on the rabies vaccine. In many states it has to be given by a vet in order to count.

In other words, if you give it yourself and your horse is exposed the shot you gave does not count as your horse being vaccinated.
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