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  • I gave my horse wormer with grain in his mouth can it hurt him
  • Tricks to giving horses wormers

 
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    01-09-2008, 08:13 PM
  #11
Foal
Ahh, the great worming battles...I'm sure everyone has at least a story or two about their horse spitting it out, or missing the horse's mouth, or getting slapped by their horse's swinging head as it tries to avoid the plunger. I know I do


It's really bad for me because I have to give me horse two doses. The first one, I am really sneaky and just shoot it in her mouth, but after that, she knows what I am doing and it is 'war' trying to get the second dose in her mouth.

I would say just to buy a worming bit. Then, you don't have to worry about mixing in enough or the horse not eating it or the horse spitting it..ect.
     
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    01-09-2008, 11:59 PM
  #12
Weanling
I know most people don't feed when you give the paste because it makes it easier for them to spit it back out. I once dewormed a horse right after he came in from eating grass in the pasture..and spit it all back out with the grass balls.

If you can't get him to take from the tube, you could always switch him over to a daily dewormer. I know it doesn't really solve the problem, but..
It's in pellet form and you can mix that with their feed. My sister's appendix is a hard keeper and is on Strongid C-2x. I don't know if your vet does it, but here they have a program where if you buy the daily dewormer through them, if your horse ever colics they would pay up to $5,000 of the surgery. Obviously, it's more expensive, but well worth it.
     
    01-10-2008, 05:49 PM
  #13
Foal
On a side note, you can't beat the panacur power-pac! Every 6 months, they're terrific. Esp. The spring/summer worming, they will shed out and dapple out, they'll look so good. It's great stuff. Oh, and i'm sure your vet told you, but scours are completely normal for a few days afterwards...
     
    01-10-2008, 07:19 PM
  #14
Weanling
Takes me forever to worm my horse I do one quickly and easy, straight in the mouth, and he doesn't spit it out! Hoorah! Them the other...he sees the worm paste, won't even let you touch his mouth lol. Throws his head up, whacks you in the head while swinging his head around madly, tries to run away haha. The list goes on and on. I just wormed on Tuesday, we were in the paddock. He only had his flyveil on and wasn't tied up lol. I held onto his flyveil on one side, had mum on the other, it was still a struggle, but as soon as his head was still I had to act like lightning to get the tube in his mouth and get it all in there.

He really hates the taste.
     
    01-11-2008, 08:13 AM
  #15
Showing
He-he. Good point, Sparky. Same with mine: 2nd horse sees what I'm doing with the 1st one and knows what's coming. However I always starts with alpha mare as 2nd one is easier to dominant over (plus my alpha mare HATES when ANYTHING is done to 2nd horse first even such ugly things like deworming and trimming). But I agree doesn't matter what dewormer I tried (I did try like 10) they both hate the taste of every single one.
     
    01-11-2008, 12:38 PM
  #16
Showing
I tasted it once and it really isnt bad, kinda sweet. I think its the texture of it that puts them off. I can't recommend the worming bit enough, great invention for the hard wormer.
     
    01-11-2008, 04:15 PM
  #17
Weanling
In addition to all of the great advice you have been given, I have found that merely working with getting your horse to hold his head down works well too. It's so much easier to shoot the wormer in their mouth. This takes time, but anytime I approach my horses and give them the down signal, they lower their heads and do not bring them up until prompted. These were 2 horses that were completely out of control much less able to be handled much and now they are doing great in their training. Here's a great site to learn how to accomplish this:


http://www.seraonline.org/Training/TE6.pdf
     
    01-11-2008, 04:46 PM
  #18
Yearling
First take him out of the cross ties, not the best place to be giving a wormer or any medication for that fact. If they have a violent reaction to what you are doing they could really hurt themselves.

Next put the wormer in your back left pocket. Put horsey in a halter and stand at his left shoulder, grab halter on the side with your right hand (reverse if your a lefty). Try to get him to bring is head down. Sneak left hand around and pop off the wormer top with it still behind your back. Now bring the wormer around but keep it low and close to his body. In one quick movement put in mouth and plunge.

Keeping it out of sight, being quick and very casual works. I would guess since this is your first horse and first time giving a wormer horsey know's somethings up because they read our body language very well.

The more casual we act around them the calmer they are.
     
    01-11-2008, 08:46 PM
  #19
Weanling
I rotate every other month.. It's funny, with my gelding.. if he even sees the dewormer he knows whats coming and will usually spit at least some of it out no matter what. With him I do it in his stall with his halter on. Dewormer in one hand (behind my back so he doesn't see it), scoop of feed in the other.. I give him a little handful of feed so he knows what I have.. put the rest in his bucket (but hang on to him by the halter with his head near his food bucket.. (biggest struggle is keeping him out of it).. Then I stealthily shove the dewormer in his mouth and shove his head in his feed bucket. (OK that sounds a lot more violent then it actually is LOL).. I've been deworming him since I was 11 or so.. Imagine an 11 year old wrestling a 1000lb horse.. lol I've gotten pretty good at it, and I'm taller now so that's a plus.

I wouldn't mix mine with grain, but that's only because he'll smell the dewormer and avoid his bucket like the plague.. or he'll take one bite and go on hunger strike.

The filly was pretty easy, I went about it the same way.. but she doesn't put up as much of a fight.. I don't know if it was luck or if its how she usually is.

Make sure his mouth is clear of hay or food because its easier to spit out.. (A few times my horse was eating hey and I gave him the dewormer and he spit out huge chunks of white pastey chewed up hay..) Don't give hay to chase it down because it's more likely to come back out.. grain or treats work best because they'll definitely swallow it.
     

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