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    01-14-2010, 07:44 PM
Thank you =] , I love hearing that. Some one told me that she dosen't look half as good as she should for it being over a year. I couldent help but laugh. She was really sick for a few months, and we had a really hard time finding a grain that would work. But we're obviosly on track now and I coulden't be happier =D . She's my world . Hehe.
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    01-15-2010, 10:10 AM
Green Broke
Originally Posted by barnprincess    
This strains off my other thred a while ago about some one telling me to use the triple crown complete on top of the 30% supplement. You guys told me no and I've read your not supposed to. She just gets beet pulp with it. Now that question lead me to ask how come you can't ? Im curious what would happen lets say I fed her normal amount of 30% and added 3 qts a day to it ? Not saying im doing that. Im asking why you can't and what the reactions would be. If any one knows. I just figured it was an overload of vitamins and minerals b/c the 30% is pretty strong. So any one know? Thanks
You can overload on vit/minerals if you mix a 30% supplemental feed with a "complete" feed. Your horse just shouldn't need it! If your horse needs more weight/calories, then I would suggest adding some alfalfa pellets to her ration, or increasing the amount or quality of the hay she's getting.

TC's 30% supplement is a great "feed" that provides all of the vit/min and amino acids that your horse needs. The majority of the "calories" in your horse's diet should come from hay or pasture grazing. If your horse cannot consume enough hay to meet those needs, then supplementing with alfalfa pellets is a great option. Beet pulp is fine, but it doesn't have much quality protein or other nutrients. Alfalfa pellets have better quality proteins and some nutrition. Just one 3qt scoop a day provides quite a lot of extra calories and digestible energy (a 3qt scoop holds about 3 lbs of most alfalfa pellets).

If your horse is in heavy training 5-6 days a week (riding 2+ hours a day), then adding a starch like plain oats is good. However, if your horse is in moderate training or light work, I would not recommend using a starchy grain product as it can negatively impact her metabolism. I only like to feed horses "starchy" feeds if they are doing enough work to USE all of the starch/sugar in their diet after they eat it (and I will only feed it in the AM, before their work, and only on work days).
    01-15-2010, 12:24 PM
She was getting hay stretcher it has alfalfa meal in it. I can't find any one with just alfalfa pellets. I cut it out b/c I just upped the beet pulp.

Just called the local feed store she said she's got a hay stretcher with 17% alfalfa , is that good ?
    01-15-2010, 10:09 PM
Green Broke
Originally Posted by barnprincess    
she was getting hay stretcher it has alfalfa meal in it. I can't find any one with just alfalfa pellets. I cut it out b/c I just upped the beet pulp.

Just called the local feed store she said she's got a hay stretcher with 17% alfalfa , is that good ?
Sure, that's fine. Or you can use alfalfa cubes. Just soak them with a little water for 30 minutes so they'll break up.
    01-17-2010, 12:16 PM
She looks great. You have done an AMAZING job. Anything experienced with horse rescue would never say she should look better at this point. Many wouldn't have improved to the degree she has at her age and the neglect she appears to have come from.
TCC is a great feed. I feed it to our Arabs and rescues. She doesn't need additonal supplements, as everyone has basically mentioned. I would feel additonal alfalfa pellets or cubes with the timothy hay, and that would be it.
Her topline might not ever fill totally out if she has spent years not being used and being neglected. It is a muscle thing, not a weight thing, in her case.
Riding and lots of turn out, if possible, with lots of acerage will help build it back up.
I have an Arab mare who has always gotten top care, and due to never having been ridden, train or having a lot of turn out, her topline looks poor. We are hoping to get our fence finished here (we bought her from her breeder in July at 8 years old) and turn her out in the hills on 20 plus acres and see what happens.
    01-17-2010, 12:51 PM
=D thanksss. I bought the hay stretcher to add into her feed , yesterday. SO I'll take new pix in another 2 - 3 weeks and keep updating =D.

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