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    11-08-2011, 08:26 PM
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grouchy & distressed horse

I have a horse who I have owned for a couple months now. She is a chestnut welsh pony/tb mare and I very crabby and grouchy. She is a nervous horse and always seems to be in distress. I attributed this to bad training & marish behavior. I put her on Mare Magic and noticed a tiny difference, but after time and me training her she seemed to get better. She would definitely have on & off days but recently it has just gotten so much worse!

I am wondering if she is ill or something. She has just snapped and gotten really nasty. She always would seem uncomfortable when she was brushed but now she is kicking out a bit and biting and the walls. She doesn't seem sick or colic-y. Temperature and gums are normal.

She has been on vitamins ever since I owned her and Mare Magic & DAC joint supplements shortly there after. I just bought SmartDigest Ultra & SmartGut to see if maybe that will help. She does seem to get a bit gassy, but I don't think it is excessive. She is stalled with no turnout, but I make sure she gets out everyday. I have her on alfalfa hay 3x a day. I've thought about changing the hay (to either orchard grass, bermuda or timothy - the only options at the barn I am at) which costs more. I thought it might be ulcers, but alfalfa is also the best hay choice for ulcers right?

Any idea what is going on?
     
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    11-08-2011, 09:21 PM
  #2
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Im not quite sure whats going on. But she definitely is worked up over something. Id try to build trust and a bond with her. I like perelli`s friendly games. But just spend time with the horse. Also try and "speak" to her in horse language. No don't sit there and Winnie and snort. Take your hand and put your fingertips on her back. Hold you fingers firm as if you were holding a large apple or ball. This immitates another horses muzzle and may comfort your horse. Also put pressure on her mane which when she was a foal her mother would do to comfort her. Now im not sure if these will work with your horse. But I have a very timid 10 year old gelding that I use this stuff when he gets spooked. Good luck and I hope my ideas may help.
     
    11-08-2011, 09:24 PM
  #3
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Have you had a thorough physical exam done? She could just be a nasty mare, but she could have a pain or hormonal issue that the Mare Magic wouldn't address. I knew one horribly hateful mare who ended up having a big cyst on her ovary. Spaying her improved her temperament.
     
    11-08-2011, 09:31 PM
  #4
Foal
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Originally Posted by thequarterhorseguy    
Im not quite sure whats going on. But she definitely is worked up over something. Id try to build trust and a bond with her. I like perelli`s friendly games. But just spend time with the horse. Also try and "speak" to her in horse language. No don't sit there and Winnie and snort. Take your hand and put your fingertips on her back. Hold you fingers firm as if you were holding a large apple or ball. This immitates another horses muzzle and may comfort your horse. Also put pressure on her mane which when she was a foal her mother would do to comfort her. Now im not sure if these will work with your horse. But I have a very timid 10 year old gelding that I use this stuff when he gets spooked. Good luck and I hope my ideas may help.
She really has built up her trust with me already. She comes to me when she is nervous and never seems upset at anything I do. She has a big fear of other horses for some reasons and gets really nervous when they walk by, or are in the arena with her. I am a very advanced rider and am not nervous or afraid when I ride her, so she normally calms down when she realizes I am ok with the situation. It's all very strange to me, as it's nothing I have seen. Nothing has happened at the barn either that I know of. All the staff and workers are incredibly wonderful and treat the horses great.
     
    11-08-2011, 09:33 PM
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Originally Posted by bubba13    
Have you had a thorough physical exam done? She could just be a nasty mare, but she could have a pain or hormonal issue that the Mare Magic wouldn't address. I knew one horribly hateful mare who ended up having a big cyst on her ovary. Spaying her improved her temperament.
She has had health exams recently and regular vet care her whole life. As for a 'thorough' physcial exam.. I don't know how thorough, I don't think anyone has been checking her ovaries or weird things, but everything in the typical exams have been good.

Like everyone these days, I'm on a pretty tight budget. I'm hesitant to call the vet out to just run a bunch of tests that don't even seem that likely to catch anything in my opinion. If anyone has any leads though or had a similar situation I'd be willing to rule it out!
     
    11-08-2011, 09:35 PM
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Back pain ruled out? Scoped for ulcers? Blood work done?

I saw someone else mention awhile back that they had a TWH gelding with similar problems; they figured out it was a food allergy after changing his diet and noticing a marked improvement in his temperament. I doubt things like that are common, but it just goes to show you never know...
     
    11-08-2011, 09:44 PM
  #7
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My 20 year old mare is like this. She is actually a very sweet girl from a distance. She's been like this her whole life... When I spend QT with her, I stand in her stall and talk to her. She loves it. She HATES being touched and rubbed. Its very strange, she will stand for grooming, but you can tell she isn't pleased about it. When I go in and talk to her, she will occasionally come over and give me a sweet nudge on my hand, but that's the extent of it.

The way I see it is that horses, like people, have different personalities. Some people give and like hugs and are in your bubble all the time, and some people like to be left alone, or just don't like to be touched. Blaze doesn't like to be touched. She's fantastic on the trails, I have never had a problem while riding her...

She would just prefer a good conversation over a back rub. Its just who she is :)
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    11-09-2011, 12:52 AM
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I've been checking her back and giving her daily massages. She doesn't seem too sore, and after the massages she's really been moving even better, so I don't think it is that.

It could be an allergy or ulcers. Ulcers were my first thought. Hopefully the new digestive stuff will make a difference (I'm keeping my fingers crossed for a quick fix!), if not I'll try to get some new blood work done and talk to the vet about food allergies.

It could very well be a personality thing, but she's really not nasty all the time. Today she was incredibly sweet and enjoyed being brushed and loved on. And all last week she was super mean and even tried attacking one of my students who was going in to brush her. It just doesn't seem right to me that it would just be how she is when it's not consistent. ...unless she's got some ridiculously crazy hormones!
     
    11-09-2011, 09:40 AM
  #9
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Yeah, my girl is always like that, with everyone. She isn't nasty and doesn't attack. She just would rather not be touches and rubbed all over. I kinda understand...

Sounds like your girl has something else going on. Hormones or pain or something of she's attacking. And if its out of character for her... Is she lame for any reason?
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    11-09-2011, 10:17 AM
  #10
Green Broke
If everything else is ruled out,
I would try a magnesium supplement... takes a while to kick in, maybe three weeks or so but REALLY helped my TBx!!

Also, bannana skins are good for stomach ulcers, but try and buy as organic as possible.. nasty chemicals otherwise!!
     

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