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    09-22-2010, 01:01 AM
Guttural pouch tympany.

I had the vet out for Gracie's swollen jowls. It was a very short visit, mostly chitchat. He says it looks and seems very much like guttural pouch tympany. But he's never seen it in an adult horse. Gracie is two, and he's only seen it in foals, but it usually goes away on it's own. She has no discharge, and no pain, so we are of the belief it is air. I'm trailering her to a clinic to get her scoped soon. I was just wondering if anyone had any experience with this?
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    09-22-2010, 01:07 AM
Not personal experience, but it is on my exam friday so I have been studying all about it. It is usually a foal problem but can happen in any age horse. The treatment is to deflate the air but it will recur if you don't address the underlying cause which is usually redundant folds of tissue not allowing air to escape through it's normal path into the pharynx. Surgeries to resolve this problem include removal of the tissue folds or making a slit in the septum between the guttural pouches. Recovery is usually uneventful. Good luck, hoping the scope doesn't show any serious problems with her!
    09-22-2010, 01:13 AM
Ugh. Surgery? I bet that's not exactly cheap. =\ Thanks a ton for the input though, I appreciate it. Anyone else?
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    09-22-2010, 02:54 AM
From what I understand, it can be done as a standing surgery (heavy sedation only) which GREATLY reduces the cost, risk, and recovery time.
    09-22-2010, 11:26 AM
Well that's good. Maybe my vet can do it then. They don't have a horse clinic, and only do routine-type surgeries [like castration]. And the vet I'd have to use is ridiculously expensive, but the have monopoly over the state, because it's them, or WSU. Ugh.
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    09-22-2010, 03:19 PM
My two year old almost three year old at the time had a guttural pouch infection. What started with knots under the jaw was teeth shifting. Also thought maybe a sinus infection because soon after she had nasal discharge, swelling behind the jowls and slight cough. I went through a vet twice for her teeth and possible sinus infection. The third time she suggested I get her teeth x-rayed to rule that out.

I was then sent to another vet that had a portable x-ray. Checked her teeth and they were fine. He said he was unsure of what was going on at the time. I mentioned the previous vet said possibly guttural pouch infection. So he scoped her and saw some mucas and swelling. We put a tube down into the gutteral pouches and flushed them.

Vet said a majority of horses will have strangles down there. We treated her like it was strangles until the results came back. It wasn't stangles it was some other infection. We treated her with proper antibiotics. I was told we might have to flush her again but luckily we didn't.

Hopefully your horse won't need the surgery for the guttural pouch tympany. Doesn't sound like a fun thing to go through. Good luck!
    09-22-2010, 04:19 PM
Just a little update. My vet is going to come out again on Friday and pull blood, do a CBC, and then check her teeth out. He said he did some research and couldn't find many reported cases of guttural pouch tympany in anything but foals and weanlings. It's not strangles, I'm 1000% sure of that. I don't think it's infected, but it could be the beginnings of it. Well see what he says on Friday.

Oh, good news is he isn't charging me another farm call since he didn't pull blood or check her teeth yesterday. =]
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    09-22-2010, 05:22 PM
That's good =) I am going to be a vet someday and I hope to be as nice as some other vets I have been too. I took a filly in to my vet to get her spayed. She was a rescue, and she was extremely weak from malnourshiment and she was young, so it stunted her growth, and I was afraid she couldn't carry a baby.

A year later, she was kicked in the ribs by a gelding and went down. It was after hours and vet met us at his clinic. She died that night fifteen minutes after she was there. The vet had gave her fluids and pain medicine, and was trying to acesses how bad things were when she went into shock. He later did a autopsy and told us that her broken ribs had punctured her arteryies. But he didn't charge us for anything he used, or the cost of him driving out. He made me feel better by saying he didn't even recognize her as the one he spayed for us. She was way better.
    09-22-2010, 06:12 PM
A good vet is worth his/her weight in gold. I'm young, but he talks to me like he would anyone else, almost a co-worker because I look so much stuff up and kind of diagnose them myself first, lol. He's also really awesome and cutting the cost down for me. And he loves my horses, and he met a barn cat yesterday and just loved on her for a few minutes while we were talking.

I forgot to thank you, HorsePoor, for your story. I like hearing about similar situations, it better prepares me for anything thy could come up. =]
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    09-22-2010, 09:20 PM
Hey, what's wrong with WSU??

Do you go to Pilchuck then? They are quite pricey, yes.

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