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        05-05-2010, 04:36 PM
    Originally Posted by Deerly    
    Eek! Remember that beat pulp EXPANDS like crazy in water (this is why you soak it) and it can cause serious problems for your horse if you feed it without soaking it first! You've seen how much it expands when soaked, imagine that happening in your horse's tummy!
    It does expand but that does not cause a problem in their tummy. That theory is one of those horse old wives tales. A horse can eat dry beat pulp and it will not cause their stomach to explode or anything like that.

    Many complete feeds contain dry beet pulp.
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        05-05-2010, 05:31 PM
    Originally Posted by Alwaysbehind    
    It does expand but that does not cause a problem in their tummy. That theory is one of those horse old wives tales. A horse can eat dry beat pulp and it will not cause their stomach to explode or anything like that.

    Many complete feeds contain dry beet pulp.
    Interesting! Thank you for that info. *starts google quest*
        05-06-2010, 08:13 AM
    You can start HERE. It is an informative write up.
        05-06-2010, 10:36 AM
    Alwaysbehind is right- it does expand but we have *never* seen a stomach rupture due to beet pulp. I suppose in theory it could happen. A problem that does occur is that it can soak up water in the gut and pre-dispose to impaction issues, at least that has been the thought in a few of our colic cases. It is hard to tell because they are usually older horses- which is why they were on beet pulp in the first place, and since older horses tend to drink less water and have a bit of dehydration issues it is hard to say if it was the chicken, or the egg.

    Try not to let choke scare you off of feeding beet pulp if he needs it, just make sure he is well hydrated and that it is well soaked. It is an amazing product for keeping weight up. That being said, I took my guy off of it after his choke too. Largely because he absolutely goes crazy when he is "grained" (I don't actually feed grain per se) and just goes after it like a Hoover. Even though the beet pulp had been soaked for hours and was really soupy he still choked. I'm keeping his weight up now with a complete senior feed, cool cals 100, and rice bran on top of his 6-8 flakes a day.

    I'm glad you're learning a lot from this thread, IMO that is what the forum is here for and I learn A TON every time I log on!
        05-06-2010, 06:04 PM
    Yup I had heard it was ok to feed it dry...i had also heard always soak it...he ate it dry all winter without an issue...but he went into hoover mode and choked...blah...I figure ill switch the beat pulp for a senior complete feed...figure ill get the same affect without so much of a choking hazard...

    He can be a bit ribby and skinny at times...the grain is mostly for the extra calories and fat lol he isnt super hard to keep but he is hard enough lol to much TB in this boy lol
        05-06-2010, 08:12 PM
    Just my two cents but I ALWAYS soak beet.. better safe than nearly sorry

    Soo glad ur boy is ok tho x
        05-06-2010, 10:15 PM
    Originally Posted by My Beau    
    I'm really glad everything is ok! Choke can be scary.

    But, putting a hose in a horse's mouth to flush/push down the blockage isn't necessarily the right thing. (Not attacking - just informing... I'm guilty of using the hose for choke too). If the blockage is pushed into the lungs it can lead to pneumonia.

    The best thing is meds to help the horse's esophagus relax and then a stomach tube via the nose if it's still not passing. Massaging the underside of the horse's neck can also help it be swallowed.
    I agree with the above...You could have caused him to breathe in the water, causing anything from pneumonia to death via literal drowning from the water rushing into his lungs. You had a decent window to allow him to relax on his own (not leaving him), and letting him get water down on his own. You could have brought hiim out some warm water mixed with honey, or coolaid, to make it more enticing, but please, for the safety of your horse don't ever hold his head up in the air and 'force him' to drink like that again.

    Choke is a scarey thing; I've had to deal with it on a few occasions with family's horses, and friends horses. The best thing to do is to rub his throat, and especially if you can find the mass in his throat, focus on that area. Get some banamine into him, to help his body relax, and alleviate some of the pain...this will give you time to get the blockage moving, and a chance to get him drinking, and moving around comfortably. Another important thing is to remain calm...your horse will be frenzied enough, which can seem to make the choke worse, so the calmer you can be throughout the ordeal, the more you will be able to help your horse.
        05-07-2010, 12:13 AM
    I had a horse choke on a pelleted feed. I gave banamine via IV and my vet advised to hose out the mouth briefly to keep the mouth moist and keep them coughing to dislodge it.
        05-08-2010, 12:44 PM
    I had a choking episode this week to with my old gelding he was eating his grain (senior feed) and began to choke and it was pretty scary it went on for bout an hour before a local vet could get out to him. Because my vet was nowhere to befound as usuall. By the time dr weekes got out to him he was doing better he gave him three shots to relax him and get him to lowerhis head cause do to his age and bad heart he didnt dare hose him like most he does so after two hours of snot rolling out his nose and a heavy vet bill!!! My old horse pulled through the night it is a very scary thin to have to go threw specially with the senior horses.. im glad to here romeo is well

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