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post #1 of 69 Old 06-20-2013, 01:02 AM Thread Starter
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Is he still "off"?

Flash had a brief bout with laminitis according to the vet, and when he was still lame two weeks later recommended getting shoes to get his feet off the ground. I'm pro-barefoot, but even my barefoot trimmer agreed that this would be best given all our circumstances. For the full story, visit this thread.

Anyway, the farrier came yesterday and did his own evaluation. He determined that the main sources of lameness wasn't laminitis (though it was still possible that Flash did have it, but was better now), but rather thin soles and was able to show me evidence of it in how his hoof looked and how he responded to pressure in certain spots. He put shoes on the front said he wouldn't be surprised if Flash was sound by today, but it shouldn't take longer than 3 days (which would be Friday).

Flash seemed to be feeling much better today - absolutely no tripping nor stumbling. In fact, he even was playing some and threw in a few bucks and loping. He shouldn't be doing that and I didn't encourage it, so he didn't do it too much, but it was nice to see him want to play again. I recorded a short video so other you all could tell me if you think he's still "off". Though Flash was moving stiffly and other HF members could see that from the videos I posted in the other thread, I still missed it and don't trust myself to be able to tell whether or not he's sound yet. What do you think?

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post #2 of 69 Old 06-20-2013, 10:53 AM
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Seems a bit short and tentative moving in front. He is sort of short strided anyway but this seems a bit more than that.

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Is he fed a high-sugar diet? He looks kind of squishy & pudgy all over... I associate laminitus with an IR, or leaning-toward IR horse.

Also, are you confident in you BF trimmer? Do you know that he/she is giving you a correct trim?

You horse is being very cautious about where/how he puts his front feet. I'm guessing when he's comfortable his ears travel at wither-height. He's also looking down before he places each front foot.
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Seems a bit short and tentative moving in front. He is sort of short strided anyway but this seems a bit more than that.
That would make sense and tells me he's still recovering but not nearly as bad as he was before. For comparison, of you click on the previous blog that I linked to about we were figuring out why he was lame, he was taking short, stiff steps and tripping/stumbling with head bobbing. Good to know he's improving!
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He does seem better then in first video not quite right yet still see he's off in his stride.
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Is he fed a high-sugar diet? He looks kind of squishy & pudgy all over... I associate laminitus with an IR, or leaning-toward IR horse.
He was until he came up lame. He's on a super low/no-sugar diet now.

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Also, are you confident in you BF trimmer? Do you know that he/she is giving you a correct trim?
I have 100% confidence in my barefoot trimmer and she's been a mentor in many other areas for me as well. After he came up lame and the vet said we needed to put shoes on, I called in the "big guns" so to speak and had a very well-known farrier that actually met my horse when I first got him and had severe imbalances. Not only did he say that the trimming had nothing to do with the issues we were having, but that his feet were a hundred times better than when I first got him.

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You horse is being very cautious about where/how he puts his front feet. I'm guessing when he's comfortable his ears travel at wither-height. He's also looking down before he places each front foot.
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When I usually work with him, we're doing clicker training - which did contribute to a high-sugar diet and I'm getting no-sugar treats once we go back to training. We've been working a lot on form without me touching him, including arching his neck and putting his head down. He's a fairly animated horse, so his ears are often above wither-height, though I've been working on getting his head lower. Since we always do this with no aids and while free-longing, he may have been trying to do so during this video.

On the other hand, it could be exactly what you say as well. Even if I was feeling better, I'd be cautious about where I placed my feet if I'd been hurting for 2 weeks. However, "cautious" is still an improvement over what people had to say about his movement before the shoes, so I'll take it. Still not going to work/ride him yet, though.
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He does seem better then in first video not quite right yet still see he's off in his stride.
Thanks! That's exactly what I needed to know!
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He looks better to me! See those little puffs of dirt in front of his feet? More on the right front, but occasionally on both? He is still landing toe first, and I would try to correct that.

he is just really a cute horse! I am rooting for you both!

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You really need to compare with a video from before his laminitis attack to be sure but he doesn't seem to be placing his front feet down properly - I call it 'flipping' as they seem to 'flip' the front of the hoof upwards and take more weight on the heel as it hits the floor
He might have had a bug/infection that spiked his blood pressure - that can cause laminitis - its not always diet related
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Here's a video of us clicker training before he was lame. He's trotting, but it's all I've got :/

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