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    03-20-2012, 02:28 PM
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Foal
In heat mare..

Okay so I'm not 100% sure if this is where I should have posted this but it seemed to fit. :)

I have a 6yo mare who whenever I take her to a show goes into heat. She doesn't get uncontrollable, just grumpy/mare-like lol and her back gets senative to the saddle. This is really frustrating because at one of my last shows I had to scratch almost all of my riding classes because I could tell it was hurting her and I didn't want to make her more uncomfortable.

So I guess what I am getting at is:
Is there anything I can give her that will either A) Prevent her from going into heat at a show or B) Help control the fact that her back is sensitive?

Also I know Regimate is a possibility but since I am a college student I don't really have the money for that at the moment. But I will invest if you think that that is the only thing that will help/

Thanks for listening to my rambling.
     
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    03-20-2012, 02:53 PM
  #2
Trained
A mare will come into heat every 28 days or there abouts. They don't come into heat because they're at a show or with other horses. If she is behaving badly then that's a training issue rather she's in heat or not.
     
    03-20-2012, 03:09 PM
  #3
Foal
I know that they come into heat every 28 days. But she will be in heat 2 weeks before a show and then seem to come back into heat again once I get her to a show. As for her behaving badly she doesn't, her back is just super tender. She has never done anything "wrong", ever (besides normal green-horse stuff) I can just tell her back is sore while riding (she is completely fine in halter/showmanship).
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    03-20-2012, 03:23 PM
  #4
Trained
She's not coming back into heat at the shows, but she is getting real excited and tensing up in her back when she squats and pees. So, if she's tensing up in her back that's why she's getting tender.

I'd do a few things to see if I could fix it.
1) Find a chiropractor to make sure she isn't out somewhere in her back
2) Use a nice big gob of Vicks in her nose before you put her on the trailer next time, it will deaden her sense of smell and it may help her to not get so excited
3) Warm her back up good before you try to ride her. Then you're going to have to get on and work her until she's not tense/sore anymore before your classes.

Be ready for her to buck and carry on if you don't scratch her next time, you've taught her to tense up and not be ridden at shows, she's probably going to object next time you want her to work.

Regumate is not the answer, training and making sure there's no physical reason to not ride her is. Regumate costs a fortune, it's very dangerous for humans to handle and it's way over used. In addition to messing with your hormones, Regumate is a known carcinogen and you need to be very careful when handling it.
     
    03-20-2012, 03:30 PM
  #5
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There are a couple of ways you can go but both will require a good reproductive Vet. [Not all Vets are good at or real experienced in mare reproduction.]

First, have him do a complete reproductive exam that includes manually palpating her ovaries. You want to be sure everything is normal. Does she stay in heat for two weeks even in the late spring and summer? That is not normal. It is normal for a mare to run irregular and long heats in the early spring -- like now. Later in the year, she should cycle closer to every 21 days with 4 or 5 days in heat and 16-18 days out of heat.

If she checks out normally, you can either put her on Regumate for 3 days before and during a show and it will keep her out for the show only.

Or you can have a Vet insert a marble into her uterus and it will keep her out of heat all summer. It works because I have done it. You use a sterilized big marble (apx 1 inch in diameter) or some Vets use an 'prosthetic eye'. Marbles are cheaper and only need to be sterilized before being inserted.

The marble is inserted through the cervix that is starting to close about 2 days after ovulation. If it is inserted earlier in the cycle than that, the mare will lose it through her open cervix. This tricks the mare's body into thinking she is pregnant. She keeps a Corpus Luteum on her last ovulating ovary and that produces Progesterone which, like synthetic Progesterone like Regumate, keeps her out of heat. Some mares will lose their marble (I love that) and come back in heat, but most will keep it all year and sometimes longer.

If you want it taken out or want to breed a mare, you can give them a shot of Lutalyse and they will come in and usually expel the marble with no help from anyone. You skip that cycle and breed them the next time they come in. I know some Vets that figure 75% success with the marbles We had it work on 2 of the 3 mares we have used it on. I may do this to a couple of mares this year.
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    03-20-2012, 03:50 PM
  #6
Foal
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Originally Posted by Dreamcatcher Arabians    
She's not coming back into heat at the shows, but she is getting real excited and tensing up in her back when she squats and pees. So, if she's tensing up in her back that's why she's getting tender.

I'd do a few things to see if I could fix it.
1) Find a chiropractor to make sure she isn't out somewhere in her back
2) Use a nice big gob of Vicks in her nose before you put her on the trailer next time, it will deaden her sense of smell and it may help her to not get so excited
3) Warm her back up good before you try to ride her. Then you're going to have to get on and work her until she's not tense/sore anymore before your classes.

Be ready for her to buck and carry on if you don't scratch her next time, you've taught her to tense up and not be ridden at shows, she's probably going to object next time you want her to work.

Regumate is not the answer, training and making sure there's no physical reason to not ride her is. Regumate costs a fortune, it's very dangerous for humans to handle and it's way over used. In addition to messing with your hormones, Regumate is a known carcinogen and you need to be very careful when handling it.


Oh believe me I do not let her get away with being naughty! Lol. If she's bad while I'm riding her I get off and lunge her until she's calmed down a bit and then I get back on her. Also I always warm her up before classes; I lunge before halter/showmanship and then ride 30-45 min before my first riding class.

I'll try the Vicks, sounds like it might help her! Thanks! Ill try all of this. :)
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    03-20-2012, 03:54 PM
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Originally Posted by Cherie    
There are a couple of ways you can go but both will require a good reproductive Vet. [Not all Vets are good at or real experienced in mare reproduction.]

First, have him do a complete reproductive exam that includes manually palpating her ovaries. You want to be sure everything is normal. Does she stay in heat for two weeks even in the late spring and summer? That is not normal. It is normal for a mare to run irregular and long heats in the early spring -- like now. Later in the year, she should cycle closer to every 21 days with 4 or 5 days in heat and 16-18 days out of heat.

If she checks out normally, you can either put her on Regumate for 3 days before and during a show and it will keep her out for the show only.

Or you can have a Vet insert a marble into her uterus and it will keep her out of heat all summer. It works because I have done it. You use a sterilized big marble (apx 1 inch in diameter) or some Vets use an 'prosthetic eye'. Marbles are cheaper and only need to be sterilized before being inserted.

The marble is inserted through the cervix that is starting to close about 2 days after ovulation. If it is inserted earlier in the cycle than that, the mare will lose it through her open cervix. This tricks the mare's body into thinking she is pregnant. She keeps a Corpus Luteum on her last ovulating ovary and that produces Progesterone which, like synthetic Progesterone like Regumate, keeps her out of heat. Some mares will lose their marble (I love that) and come back in heat, but most will keep it all year and sometimes longer.

If you want it taken out or want to breed a mare, you can give them a shot of Lutalyse and they will come in and usually expel the marble with no help from anyone. You skip that cycle and breed them the next time they come in. I know some Vets that figure 75% success with the marbles We had it work on 2 of the 3 mares we have used it on. I may do this to a couple of mares this year.

I would love to get a reproductive vet to look at her and everything like that but I just don't have that kind of money and I know my mom won't pay for that stuff either. But thank you so much for the advice. Sometime down the road if I have the money and of she's still like this I would love to have her looked at. :)
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    03-21-2012, 01:29 AM
  #8
Weanling
I HAVE AN Arabian MARE THAT came in heat while she was pregnant and was known to do the same with the previous owner. I couldn't believe it. Any time she was exposed to new horses she always comes in heat. Regardless of her timing.
This has no effect on me riding her or doing anything I want to with her but it's weird. When I brought my gelding home for the first time, she was in heat within I want to say between 3 and 5 or 6 days later, and she was checked in foal then.

She is a SUPER submissive horse and I think she IS coming into heat. She hunches/squats weird to pee, pees all the time in front of the gelding, and is always "winking" that's in heat right?? Walks around with her tail crooked over to the side for a few days......
     

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