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        04-10-2013, 11:55 PM
      #11
    Foal
    Sorry to be snarky. I apologize. I would not blow this off and not call a vet. I would do anything I could to keep her comfortable.
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        04-11-2013, 12:03 AM
      #12
    Trained
    Like I said, environment is everything. All the meds help with an acute crisis.
    My first heaves horse was symptom free until the day he died, age 26, of heart failure. My second, due to bad circumstances( no possibility to keep her outside, ignorant people who thought moldy hay and straw were no big deal), died of heart failure age 15, a day before the vet appointment to have her pts.
    I didn't mean to sound harsh, but what happened to my little mare I don't wish for any horse.
    This is why I see it the way I see it.
    If you don't have an alternative to the current barn, see if you can convince them to use slowfeeder nets for the hay ( you said there were other horses sharing her pasture). It would save hay, too, btw.
         
        04-11-2013, 10:41 AM
      #13
    Foal
    I talked to the BO. I can get her out in the pasture 24/7 but they would be unable to do PM grain and there is no way I can do it myself because of the drive. She is already getting the maximum amount of senior feed twice a day and a fat supplement in the winter. So, I don't know what will be worse. Staying in the barn overnight or losing a graining time. I don't see that being outside is going to have dramatic benefit with her as far as breathing but if anything she'll just maintain. Thus, I don't think she'll be gaining any weight either. It's a rock and a hard place.
         
        04-11-2013, 10:48 AM
      #14
    Started
    What is the alternative if you can't feed wet feed? It gets -40 here in the winter and anything wet is an ice cube in short order.
         
        04-11-2013, 11:04 AM
      #15
    Trained
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by kateortamar    
    I talked to the BO. I can get her out in the pasture 24/7 but they would be unable to do PM grain and there is no way I can do it myself because of the drive. She is already getting the maximum amount of senior feed twice a day and a fat supplement in the winter. So, I don't know what will be worse. Staying in the barn overnight or losing a graining time. I don't see that being outside is going to have dramatic benefit with her as far as breathing but if anything she'll just maintain. Thus, I don't think she'll be gaining any weight either. It's a rock and a hard place.
    There is where you'll have to change your mode of thinking. She is allergic to dust and mold. If she is locked in a 12x12 cubicle, hay, dry, on the ground, with every breath she will inhale dust and moldspores. Not only from her own hay, from the neighbors, from the isle, when somebody walks by. Eve the best hay has tiny amounts of mold. Whatever gets kicked up, remains there, at her face height. If you don't believe me, next time the sun is shining through a gap in the barn, you can see all the particles. And there are a lot more you can't see.
    You can give up to 5lbs per meal. Add a cup of oil and offer more hay.

    If she can't breathe she will not eat. If she can breathe, she will eat enough to get to decent weight.
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        04-11-2013, 11:14 AM
      #16
    Foal
    She is a voracious eater. She eats whatever is in front of her. I'll see what the vets thinks as far as weight. She is going to be out of the barn from now on. Thanks for the replies.
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        04-11-2013, 11:32 AM
      #17
    Trained
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by kateortamar    
    She is a voracious eater. She eats whatever is in front of her. I'll see what the vets thinks as far as weight. She is going to be out of the barn from now on. Thanks for the replies.

    You can read up on heaves/COPD on TheHorse: Your Guide to Equine Health Care | TheHorse.com
    Sign up, it's free. Search for articles. Lots of info there.
    Then Slow Feeding Horses on Paddock Paradise Tracks - Paddock Paradise Wiki for the slowfeeders. They can save you washing the hay, and help with her weight. With all these positive changes she might get so much better that you will not notice any shortness of breath whatsoever.
         

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