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    03-18-2013, 07:35 AM
^ Yep.

She really is a cutie. I agree though, I'd find out about the worming and her teeth then see if she improves. Will be waiting for some updates on her.
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    03-18-2013, 07:59 AM
I usually leave the halter off. I left it while she ate her breakfast and I drank my coffee so that I could work with her some afterwards. We live in a desert area and early mornings are the best time for most things.

I just wormed her with Safeguard...her last worming is recorded as being Ivermectin about a month ago.

Quick question on worming and ulcers...I don't actually think she has ulcers, I'm not seeing any of the signs I've read about...but I didn't find information about whether various medicines can cause ulcers in horses. I know several meds do in humans. Does anyone know where I can find some good information about that? I'd never heard of horse ulcers before but have experienced a peptic ulcer myself and I want to learn more about it in horses.

Next question is about teeth. The seller said that her vet checked her teeth and said that she's fine and is too young to need it. Our farrier tells me the same thing about our pony every time I mention to him my concerns that our ponies teeth have never been floated. Inspected yes but not floated. Our vet also said the same about our pony (they're the same age) and then he gave me a list of things to watch for as signs of when to float and said call him if I see these things and not yearly. Everything I read says neither horse is too young and it should be done yearly. I'm uncertain why I'm getting such different advice from the people where I live from what I read. If your vet looked at your 7 year old horses teeth and said they didn't need floated yet...would you accept that or look for a new vet?
    03-18-2013, 08:19 AM
Green Broke
The fact he says the horse is "too young" is a red flag to me. Now if he actually got in there and checked for points and said they are fine - that is different. I've got a horse here that checks fine every year and hasn't needed a float while others need them every year. And I've had a horse as young as 3 years old who has needed a float. I do think some of it has to do with diet. I find the ones fed more grains and concentrated feeds tend to get the points faster than ones fed all-hay diets. However, even with that in mind they should be checked yearly at a minimum.

As to horse ulcers - I'm sure some meds could aggervate them once there - but the biggest causes are stress, stalling for long periods, limited to no contact with other horses (believed to increase stress), not having constant feed - horses were designed for food going through their system almost 24/7.

But if you are seeing no signs I would first get teeth done and just give the home/feed regime some time to work. You said she is already looking better, correct? If she is continuing to improve I wouldn't be too worried about ulcers at this point, but its just something good to keep in mind if you find that she is not hold weight despite plenty of food, good teeth, and worming.

Good luck!
    03-18-2013, 09:03 AM
If a horse has access to pasture then the silica in the grass helps to grind the teeth in a more even manner. Hay and grains just don't have that ability. If your happy with your vet and you just want your horses teeth floated then just ask him to do it or take her to someone who will. In our area a lot of vets don't do floating and we go to people who do that as part of their living.
She is a very lucky horse, to have a such a nice owner.
    03-18-2013, 09:35 AM
Green Broke
Hmm..interesting. But I wonder - how is silica in grass but not in hay?
    03-18-2013, 11:32 AM
Green Broke
Maybe she is from the same bloodlines as my Paint...He has always looked just like that! Muscles from his QH ancestors....Ribs and withers from his TB. No matter how much I fed, he looked great undersaddle, and rangey bare. He is 27 now, and still looks like that.

Also from experience with my horse..... Does she have any crusty spots on her midline, under her belly? Or on the back of her hind legs? My gelding would get a secondary skin infection every 7 years or so, and we would run bloodwork, and a course of antibiotics to clear it up.

Pretty girl! And hope the horses continue to do wonders for your child.

    03-18-2013, 01:38 PM
No on crusty spots on her body...only scabs flaking off healing injuries or crusty where injuries are still wet underneath. On her face she (I could see she'd been washed everywhere but her face) she was a little crusty maybe. When I scratched at her face, tiny little tufts of hair came away with little bits of skin at the base and some dandruff like stuff came off also. Really tiny tufts. This did not look normal to me but after cleaning it all off once, I've seen no more sign of that. Also, cleaning it off did not leave any bare spots on her so I think she just needed her face cleaned.
    03-18-2013, 01:55 PM
Your horse is definitely not to young for dental !! Should have had her teeth done before now. I have one trainer I've used & he will not start a young horse that has not had his teeth done
You horse is nice looking & will look even better with some more weight.Yes she is well muscled naturally but can see she has started to loose some of that fullness too, over her topline & hind end. Having her on a high quality forage,balance rationer & some beet pulp is a good way to start trying to get some weight on.The skin blemishes{from what can tell from pics} do look like her being picked on in a herd,those should heal up on own,just keep eye on them.She won't recover her weight overnight but you will see definite improvement in first month, if you don't need to re-look at things.

Sounds like she is going to be what you are wanting, but just needs some TCL to get her to a more ideal weight
    03-18-2013, 02:31 PM
She is so cute.. it could have just been stress from her move and being in that new herd. Honestly I watched my mare start showing ribs after 3 days when we were trying to get her to load and put food and water in the trailer. She filled right back out but she was looking pretty ribby for a few.
    03-18-2013, 02:32 PM
Green Broke
My Equine dentist, also a DVM, recommends doing a young horse's teeth more often than adult horses.

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