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post #1 of 17 Old 04-02-2009, 10:16 PM Thread Starter
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Help 4 Midnight

I was entrusted with a 3 or 4 yr old ( so I'm told) stud that is supposed to be a Tennessee Walker. He has been in a 40 acre pasture for the last few months with a mare & 2 gelding quarter horses. 4 days ago my father-in-law noticed that Midnight had dropped alot of weight. They brought him off the hill & put him in my barn. I was astonished at how thin he was. I had not seen him before. Anyways, he is very unsteady on his feet. The owner, my brother-in-law, is contacting a vet to come out & look at him. Where we live, there aren't many vets & getting one to your house is quite a problem. I immediately gave him a dose of wormer and started feeding him a 2 pound coffee can of a 10% feed (with a low mollases content) and alfalfa pellets mixture twice a day, along with hay & plenty of water. I noticed his eyes had a cloudy white glob in them that I was able to wipe out, but it is back again. Also, today he layed down & we had a tough time getting him up. He tried twice & fell over. The third time, he made it up. He's very wobblely on his feet & he's not very enthusiatic when he eats, although he usually does eat all of his grain. I was told he's not been cut, but in his testacle area, he has a very large ball that feels like a very full water balloon. When he urinates, it's a very small stream and not alot at one time. It drips for several minutes when he's done. We have noticed that he does urinate quite often, also. He's water intake is alot more than the output.
For being so young, he's not active at all. He reminds me of a very old horse. I contribute that to his poor condition. I'm afraid he is not going to pull through & I'm asking for all the advice I can get. Thanks in advance for your time & support.
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post #2 of 17 Old 04-03-2009, 01:23 AM
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I don't have any words of wisdom for your current situation. I would get a vet out ASAP.

I have a couple of questions though. Why didn't you look at this horse regularly? I would be surprised if he pulled through. If he was down and had difficulty getting up and if he is unsteady on his feet he has likely been starving for some time. Lack of proper nutrition can cause organ failure. It also sounds very likely that you've got a pregnant mare on your hands. I'd ask the vet to check your mare when he comes out to look at the stud.


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post #3 of 17 Old 04-03-2009, 11:39 AM
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not sure and don't quote me on this but it sounds like either.....
-Testicular cancer
-Testicular hernia
-or some sort of ether viral or bacterial infection

make sure you get a vet out ASAP.
Let us know how you make out

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post #4 of 17 Old 04-03-2009, 11:46 AM
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Some sort of bladder issue?? Do horses get blocked? I would follow the above advice and get a vet out ASAP. Be careful about overfeeding right away too, horses digestive systems need awhile to adjust to new foods or you could compound the problem. Good luck with him.
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post #5 of 17 Old 04-03-2009, 12:50 PM
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your supposed to clean the sheeth. Bladder infections can happen. Which can be painfull and can cause an infection, or a serious injury. If hes having trouble there might be a "bean" up there in his you know what. As for the falling over an infection can live through out the body, since you said hes been out for so long, sounds like he got sick somehow and either A - never got treated right or B - nobody looked into it. Now I'm not saying that you would do that but god knows so many people get horses and dont know what comes along with it. Best bet is to get your vet out there ASAP!

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post #6 of 17 Old 04-03-2009, 02:58 PM
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I don't have any words of wisdom for your current situation. I would get a vet out ASAP.

I have a couple of questions though. Why didn't you look at this horse regularly? If he was down and had difficulty getting up and if he is unsteady on his feet he has likely been starving for some time. Lack of proper nutrition can cause organ failure. It also sounds very likely that you've got a pregnant mare on your hands. I'd ask the vet to check your mare when he comes out to look at the stud.
I agree completely. Get a vet out ASAP and I would suggest preg checking the mare.
I would also suggest going out to look at the horses EVERY DAY for condition - you want to check them for weight, injury, lameness, etc.


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post #7 of 17 Old 04-03-2009, 05:08 PM
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Just for future reference, never deworm a sick horse


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post #8 of 17 Old 04-05-2009, 03:24 PM
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I would quarantine him until you can get a vet out. While it may not be infectious, dribbling urine, having balance issues, being "weak", and loss of weight can all be seen with Equine Herpes Virus caused neurological disease. Better safe than sorry, as they say.

Put him in an area where he can't get cast, there are no sharp, pointy projections and nothing that he can get caught in. Take his temperature twice a day. Make sure he is eating/drinking--a pelleted (especially a complete feed) feed that you can soften with a bit of water may make eating easier for him. And get your vet out as soon as possible to examine him.

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post #9 of 17 Old 04-05-2009, 03:37 PM
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Just for future reference, never deworm a sick horse
Really? I had always heard it was safe to use Fenbendazole wormers on horses that were sick or emaciated (Fenbendazole being the active ingredient in Safeguard and Panacur). I wouldnt use a POWERFUL dewormer on a sick horse, seeing as their system is exhausted enough from being sick/thin... but i always felt they needed to be dewormed relatively soon because you'll just be feeding the worms otherwise.. and the sick or thin horse wont get much of the nutrients from the food.

I guess on the flip side, even with fenbendazole it could really hurt the fragile system to purge those worms..

To the original poster:

First off... welcome to The Horse Forum! =)

Second, i'd definately get a vet out ASAP if you can. Its worth the trip charge even if you need to get one to come to you from further away.

I don't know how to help ya, or even offer any advice. Can you take pictures to show us? That'd help a ton! =)

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post #10 of 17 Old 04-05-2009, 11:10 PM
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You do want to watch what you give a "sick" horse---moxidectin shouldn't be given to a horse that is sick or underweight, ivermectin can cause issues if you are dealing with a horse that has a neurological problem--pyrantel or fenbendazole should both be pretty safe even in sick horses. Even in adult horses with no known deworming history, pyrantel and fenbendazole aren't likely to lead to issues.

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